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Which American reflects your character?

Author: conorlarkin (22434 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:40 pm on Mar 22, 2026
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Excerpts:

Donald Trump Is Nothing Like Robert Mueller

The absurdity of a man who avoided Vietnam due to “bone spurs” dancing on the grave of a decorated combat veteran

By Jonathan Lemire

Robert Mueller III was a Bronze Star Marine veteran, an FBI director, and an American citizen. When the president of the United States heard the news that Mueller died today, he put it this way: “Good, I’m glad he’s dead.”

Mueller was honored for his service in Vietnam, and served presidents of both parties as the director of the nation’s top law-enforcement agency. Donald Trump, whose diagnosis of bone spurs kept him from being sent to that same war, has repeatedly denigrated the American war dead as “losers” and “suckers,” and has expressed disgust in the presence of wounded troops (“No one wants to see that, the wounded,” Trump once complained to the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff).

Trump has never tried to be the president of all Americans. That deficiency was on grotesque display as he celebrated the death of someone who devoted his life to the country Trump now leads. Of course, Mueller spearheaded the investigation into whether there was collusion between Russia and Trump’s 2016 campaign. Trump never forgave him.

Even by the low standards that Trump has set, cheering the death of another man is abhorrent.

Mueller, in recent years, had retreated from the spotlight. He made few public appearances after his 2019 testimony before Congress at the end of his investigation into Trump; his performance then was, at times, faltering and confusing. He was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease two years later. He died at the age of 81.

Trump, with his nation at war, spent the day golfing near his lush Palm Beach estate. He was still at his club when news of Mueller’s death broke. Trump fired off his reaction a short time later.

The Russia investigation—or, as Trump put it, the “Russia, Russia, Russia hoax”—has long infuriated the president. Questions swirled throughout the 2016 campaign about possible links between Moscow and Trump and his associates. Trump himself fueled much of the speculation and, in May 2017, abruptly fired the FBI director, James Comey, who was leading an investigation into the possible collusion. Trump made no secret of why he did it: The very next day, he hosted the Russian ambassador in the Oval Office and told him that firing Comey had “taken off” the “great pressure” that Trump had faced over the investigation. Just over a week later, the Department of Justice named Mueller, who was then retired, as special counsel to investigate a sitting president.

The investigation shadowed Trump, who only added to it by routinely making policy decisions and pronouncements that favored Russia and its authoritarian leader, Vladimir Putin. This was most vividly on display in their July 2018 summit in Helsinki when Trump, in response to a question I asked about Moscow’s election interference, sided with Putin over his own nation’s intelligence agencies and then went on yet another screed about the Russia probe.

Meanwhile, back home, Mueller became an unlikely pop-culture figure. It was an uncomfortable fit; Mueller stayed out of sight and instructed his team to stay silent; despite the constant attacks from Trump and Republicans, his team would not comment. That silence and resulting air of mystery, in a way, only inspired Democrats more; surely, they said, Mueller would save the day.

He did not. Trump never sat for an interview, and Mueller’s team leaned on a DOJ guideline that stated that presidents could not be charged with a crime. Mueller concluded that it could not be proved that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia. And he did not offer an opinion as to whether Trump obstructed justice in trying to block the investigation. Mueller first gave his report to Attorney General Bill Barr in March 2019, and Barr framed it for public consumption, painting it in the most favorable light for the president. Trump claimed that the outcome was “total exoneration.” It was not. But his presidency survived.

Trump has always governed as an “us versus them” president. Every other man who has sat in the Oval Office has at least nodded toward unity or made an effort to win over those who didn’t vote for him. Trump never has. Instead, he has vilified his perceived opponents—whether Democrats, journalists, or any other average Americans—and deemed them traitors or enemies of the people. In his second term, he has used the Department of Justice, the same agency where Mueller worked for nearly 30 years, as a tool to carry out retribution.

Other presidents have been partisan; other presidents have exhibited vile behavior. But Trump alone has publicly exulted in the death of an American. Mueller never sought the attention, though his life story was worthy of biopic treatment. He volunteered to fight in Vietnam and won numerous citations, including the Bronze Star for combat valor when he rescued a wounded Marine under enemy fire during a 1968 ambush. The following year, he was shot in combat. He returned to lead his platoon a few months later. He later practiced law, became a U.S. attorney, and rose through the ranks of the Department of Justice before being chosen by President George W. Bush to become FBI director shortly before the September 11 attacks.

At the conclusion of Mueller’s 10-year term, a president of the other party, Barack Obama, asked him to stay on for another two years. Mueller was approved by all senators, Republican and Democrat alike, 100–0.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

Replies to: Which American reflects your character?


Thread Level: 2

I thought you were going to compare Biden & Trump.

Author: NedoftheHill (46385 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 12:27 am on Mar 23, 2026
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NedoftheHill reflects my character more than any politician...although I have to admit that Rand Paul is closer than any others.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Biden vs Muller is an interesting comparison.

Author: BaronVonZemo (62758 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:25 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Who knew less about what was going on?

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Thread Level: 4

You’re no better than trump.

Author: jimbasil (54301 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:00 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

As expected...not one comment on Mueller vs. Trump in any of your posts this thread...the comparison

Author: TyroneIrish (23986 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:18 am on Mar 23, 2026
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is just too stark and painful for you to acknowledge...and thus admit your poor choice.

Thread Level: 2

And not to forget his disdain for Senator John McCain.

Author: jimbasil (54301 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:14 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Link: https://youtu.be/UNugcPeCZZE?si=DfGP7gK6swLxQEkM

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

In the fullness of time, Donald J. Trump will be fully exposed for the vile person he is...and

Author: TyroneIrish (23986 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:57 pm on Mar 22, 2026
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remembered appropriately.

Thread Level: 2

You are the perfect "us vs. them" character described by this author.

Author: MAS (22383 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:53 pm on Mar 22, 2026
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I noticed years ago that the TDS folks here -- you, Frank, Chris, Jim, et al -- were the most like him. You never admit you're wrong about anything, label those with whom you disagree bad people, regard yourselves as better than other people, attach great importance to status, can't laugh at yourselves, react poorly when someone has fun at your expense, and, in your case, post things solely to elicit reactions.

Thread Level: 3

Quite the contrary. I believe in America and its ideals.

Author: conorlarkin (22434 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:09 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Forgive me for being the oddball who votes for candidates who best reflect those ideals.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

Here's an example of what I described. "I believe in America and you don't because you voted for the

Author: MAS (22383 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:11 am on Mar 23, 2026
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wrong guy. If you believed in America, you wouldn't vote how you voted."

You're silly.


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No, that’s what you say - what we say is, you support a 34x convicted felon, known as a rapist, an

Author: jimbasil (54301 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:23 am on Mar 23, 2026
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insurrectionist, grifter, thief, liar, self-indulgent narcissist who is not only stupid but more than likely a Russian asset because of his stupidity - an anti-patriot racist who we said would once again plunge this country into turmoil and debt to his advantage. And big news - in less than a year he has succeeded in a third of the time it took him in his last opportunity.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 6

Look one post below. That's exactly what conor said. Conor admits MAS is right.

Author: NedoftheHill (46385 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 12:29 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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We will mark down Ned as all in for Donald Trump as the better American.

Author: conorlarkin (22434 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:54 am on Mar 23, 2026
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 8

Not sure why you take offense at me arguing your point to Jim for you.

Author: NedoftheHill (46385 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)

Posted at 1:05 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Maybe we will mark you down as hating the US Constitution. Is this how it works? If so, it is very effective!

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Anyone who voted for Trump rejects American values. FACT

Author: conorlarkin (22434 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:15 am on Mar 23, 2026
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Quite different than voting for Romney, McCain, Bush, W, Reagan.

Trump is a different bucket.

And you know that.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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