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Go Barbara!

Author: conorlarkin  (22470 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:49 am on Apr 1, 2026
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Yes, I am a proud card carrying member of the ACLU.

Link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/25/25-365/396806/20260219162058285_25-365%20Trump%20v%20Barbara%20Respondents%20Brief.pdf

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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Thread Level: 2

Why do you support birth right citizenship?

Author: NedoftheHill  (46431 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:37 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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I'm not trying to make an argument. I'm genuinely interested in your reasoning.

Is it textual? historical? precedential? ethical? other?

If we were ratifying the US Constitution today for the first time, would you put birth right citizenship in the Constitution? If so, why?


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The 14th Amendment and our nation's longtime recognition of it are clear.

Author: conorlarkin  (22470 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:32 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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Any Administration's policy agenda ought not be used to outflank our Constitution. It would otherwise be fickle.

I also embrace the notion that we are a diverse and multi-cultural nation -- it is the very essence of America. The notion that an infant's birth/citizenship should be derailed by his parents' undocumented status is offensive to me.

Scores of birthright citizens have served our nation in many different ways, including combat.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

So, if you were writing the Constitution today, you would include it.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46431 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:50 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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I'm willing to entertain textual and precedential arguments (although precedent is overturnable).

But I'm not sure why we would want to put it in today, if it weren't already there. Most countries don't have it, and the benefits you mention are achievable through legal immigration instead.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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In your view, what does "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean?

Author: MarkHarman  (7763 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:34 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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He’s going to the Supreme Court today

Author: Chris94  (38512 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:04 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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Going to be the first sitting president to attend oral arguments.

And addressing the nation tonight.

Unless those are April fools pranks


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He obviously has nothing better to do. It’s not like he has a war going on or anything.

Author: Domer From Hell  (17912 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:01 pm on Apr 1, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!

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