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Remember when the Five Eyes leaked Israel's plans to undermine when shared by the Biden Adm?

Author: BaronVonZemo  (62805 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 2:19 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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It appears the Trump Adm learned from the Biden Adm's experience. Their were no leaks on this attack of Iran on the brink of nuclear capability.
On top of this, the US Govt cited their concerns over leaks from these allies.


The TDS crowd spews hatred only, and I doubt they have the capacity to even remember this (if they were ever aware of it from their selective news feed).


Link: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202410219588

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Sigh. Once again you are just so wrong.

Author: Rooney  (5983 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:31 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Former CIA analyst Asif Rahman, an American, pleaded guilty to those leaks and is serving 3 years for it. Five eyes had nothing to do with the leak.

The call came from inside your own house!


"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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Thanks, Rooney...and don't buy his claim of always apologizing when caught in a false or

Author: TyroneIrish  (24096 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:22 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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misleading post...I've got evidence to the contrary...more than once.

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You are correct, and I was unaware of this.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (62805 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 2:36 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Obviously, the govt had concerns about leaks wrt this mission nonetheless, but this example that I used was actually from in house, as you say.

I am wrong from time to time, and I own it when i am. I do not ever intend to purvey false information like some. The "once again" comment is merely a dig from an uber lib Canadian,


Link: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-cia-analyst-sentenced-over-three-years-prison-unlawfully-transmitting-top-secret

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"on the brink of nuclear capability." Just false. One of the central lies of the war.

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:23 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Define "brink."

Author: Curly1918  (17644 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 2:45 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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And didn't North Korea give them ICBMs that could reach anywhere in Eurpoe?

What else might they give them?

I do agree that the bigger threat was to Israel... which does have bukes and would use them if necessary.

The whole world would be f*cked in the event of a nuke exchange between those two.

The Arab Gulf states also seem to feel this war was for the greater good..


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Brink = imminent. Brink = they had made the decision to build bombs.

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:52 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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They hadn't. They had never made that final decision - and the ayatollah was one the big sticking points.

So, we killed him.


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Now define "imminent." And if no bomb building why so much enriching toward weapon grade

Author: Curly1918  (17644 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 4:04 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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And why trying to hide it?

I suppose "death to America and Israel" was just hyperbolic rhetoric.


Link: https://thebulletin.org/2026/03/analysis-iran-likely-transferred-highly-enriched-uranium-to-isfahan-before-the-june-strikes/

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Sigh. Imminent = anytime soon. How's that? Need a dictionary?

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:07 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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They can chant "death to America" all they want. They had no way to implement it.

Threat = Intent X Capability

Their capability was zero. Threat was zero.


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Define "anytime soon" in terms of temporal duration.

Author: Curly1918  (17644 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 4:23 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Oh! And why develop the capacity to attack all their neighbors... just like North Korea did to shelter its nuke program?

Link: https://x.com/gummibear737/status/2039299981408927975

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Lemme help you.

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:41 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Link: https://www.dictionary.com/

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Please.You've lost credibility, and now you shift focus from my post. The allies leaked Israel info

Author: BaronVonZemo  (62805 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 2:34 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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on their plans against the Iranian threat in the recent past....under the Biden Adm (so you can't claim it's another Trump lie).

Trump was wise to withhold this same type info from them, and they are upset precisely because they did not have the opportunity to leak the info on mission this time.

Iran was absolutely a major threat. They presently are trying to reclaim their buried nuclear material, and they fired missiles at a target 2500 miles away that they said that they didn't have. Just because the US tech was able to shoot them down as they approached their base doesn't diminish the Iranian threat to Europe and any other country within a 2500 mile radius.
If they have nuclear capability, close would count on a major city. Stop being a denier of the obvious.

Do you also doubt that the Artemis Mission isn't really going to the moon also? TDS is very real.


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Iran was no threat to us. They also never fired missiles unless provoked.

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:54 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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They did not target Israel...until Israel hit them.

Deterrence worked against them. I know, I know....cognitive dissonance is a bitch.


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They had missile capability that they said they didn't have.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (62805 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 6:47 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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Link: https://x.com/LTC_Shoshani/status/2035421230937813230?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2035421230937813230%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fworld%2Ftrump-proven-right-irans-long-range-missile-capability-r

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Missiles that they never used except in self-defense

Author: Chris94  (38527 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:47 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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1) those missiles could not hit us. Not even close.
2) those missiles could not hit the targets the aimed at. They were not scary.
3) missiles without nuclear warheads are not really scary anyway.
4) Iran never fired them without having been attacked first.

The Israelis claim to have worried about these missiles. But the Israelis could shoot them down without much problem.

And if no one gave Iran a reason to fire their missiles, they wouldn't have fired them.

Not a threat worth fighting for. By a long shot.


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Addendum: wrt "allies leaking" per Rooney's post above, I was wrong wrt source.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (62805 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 3:37 pm on Apr 2, 2026
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I had to correct myself to DFH below as well.

It is speculation on my part that the Adm was concerned about leaks wrt the upcoming strikes on Iran. The wider the circle of knowledge, the higher the risk of leaks, and i suspect that they didn't want to take the chance of another leak scuttling the action as back in Oct '24, regardless of the source.
Ultimately, since the leaders have far more information than we do, it comes down to trust.
No matter what, you don't trust Trump, and you believe that he is lying. I do not hold this view. Thus, our difference.



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