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Vance having a bad week. Backs a loser in Hungary and his diplomacy tanks

Author: Curly1918  (17698 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 9:29 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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Not ready for prime time.

Bring on Marco, a closet RINO.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/world/viktor-orban-concedes-defeat-opposition-leader-heads-potential-supermajority-win

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Thread Level: 2

"Death to America" for almost 50 yrs. Slaughter of their own people.

Author: ELP  (11325 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)
Posted at 11:37 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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You think this scum can be reasoned with? You really think the embedded mass murderers hiding in caves can be negotiated with? I know that the Dems want to play patty cake with the mullahs, but that doesn't seem to work either.

Thread Level: 3

People who are willing to die for a cause are very difficult to beat or even negotiate with.

Author: THEISMANCARR  (17945 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 3:28 am on Apr 13, 2026
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Venezuelans never believe they had a cause and I don't think the Cubans do, but the radical Islamists do have a cause they believe in. They have swallowed the bullshit form their elders foreever.

Thread Level: 4

Persians are not suicidal

Author: Chris94  (38602 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:38 am on Apr 13, 2026
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They get other people to kill themselves.

Remember when you post: you have no goddam idea what you are talking about.


Thread Level: 5

Oh. They just have people willing to die. Nothing to worry about then.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46480 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 12:56 pm on Apr 13, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 6

And so it goes...

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35180 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:49 pm on Apr 13, 2026
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(Only song I can recall that has the word "Persian" in the lyrics...)




Thread Level: 2

I don’t fault Vance re the Islamabad discourse, given his marching orders from Trump.

Author: conorlarkin  (22544 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:02 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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Even though I regard Vance as dishonorable on many fronts, I believe he could shepherd a long term agreement if left to negotiate on his own terms. And I would prefer Vance to Rubio or Kush or the other pretender.

Trump set Vance up for failure. The negotiations had zero chance with US demands for Iran to capitulate on everything.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 2

Sometimes the best move in a negotiation is to walk away.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46480 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 9:44 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Sometimes the best play is to cut one’s losses after an unforced clusterf*ck.

Author: conorlarkin  (22544 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:26 pm on Apr 12, 2026
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Trump fooked up ….. big time.

And no Ned, your “potential benefits” justification has proven unfounded.

Recalibrate Ned. Trump’s recklessness has created a shitshow. Our nation needs to embrace reality, buy our way an exit strategy, and move on.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

I didn't defend Trump. I just discredited a potentially false impression.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46480 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:04 am on Apr 13, 2026
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If the goal is a deal at any cost, as you want, that means a bad deal.

Of course you know this, given your profession. But you aren't being an objective commentator here in this forum, you are being a partisan.

As for me, like you, I have no idea what happened behind closed doors. Unlike you, I'm not trying to score useless party propaganda points by assuming facts not in evidence.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

"If the goal is a deal at any cost, as you want,..." Always the 'Strawman' argument with you

Author: TyroneIrish  (24173 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:25 pm on Apr 13, 2026
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Ned...posit some outrageous claim that was never made and build your 'case' around that...instead of what's really under scrutiny...Trump's utter failure to plan for his war against Iran.

You are truly a 'One Trick Pony'...and not very good at it.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


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