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Both sides believe the other will BLINK, but there is another scenario.

Author: Curly1918  (17766 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 2:57 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Right now Iran's hardliners appear willing to turn their country into another North Korea rather than capitulate on their nuclear program.

Meanwhile, Trump cannot appear to have conceded after having gone all in on this war.

So... he will soon have no choice but to resume bombing EVERYTHING that supports the regime in any way... until... he can declare that there are no more military targets.

At that point he can agree to a mutual opening of the Straits of Hormuz FOR EVERYONE .

Then both sides can declare victory.

Or... Mossad can take out the hardliners.


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In the end Iran will control Hormuz and make concessions on nuclear program. Then both sides claim W

Author: Eli  (9560 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:31 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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That's my prediction at beginning of the war and still my prediction now. I could be wrong of course. But if that happens, I would say it is truly a win for both sides, I mean U.S. and Iran, not including Israel. The goal of U.S. is about Iran's nuclear threat, not Hormuz. If that goal is achieved, yes, we can claim victory. The goal of Iran is not nuclear weapons. Because if had Iran really wanted nuclear weapons, they would have got it, granted they would have paid very heavy price of isolation by the world and become north korea. But if a small country like North Korea was able to develop nuclear weapons, a big country like Iran whose STEM education is in top rank of world, would certainly can. The issue is if they are willing to pay the price. I believe now they are willing to trade concessions on nuclear program with control of Hormuz and profit sharing with Oman. You can say Hormuz is Iran's new nuclear weapon.

As for Israel, the whole country has become too crazy. 95% of its people supported what Israel has done in Gaza and over 60% support war with Iran. We can't go crazy with them.


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Some people claimed victory for Hamas as well. Not surprising if each side claims victory.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46571 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:43 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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What is more interesting is when the Democrats decide to believe Iran rather than the US in victory claims. That exposes them.

[Side note: 100% of right thinking people in Israel support what Israel did to Hamas. Hamas needed killing after October 7th.]


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If your goal is wiping out Hamas, of course you failed, they can claim V. It all depends on the goal

Author: Eli  (9560 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:58 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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If your goal is defeating Humas, yes, you can claim victory, they can't. It's very simple, not like politicians spinning.

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So if the US blasts "everything," both sides will be able to declare victory.

Author: Chris94  (38658 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:50 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Awesome logic.

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I suppose we could ship a pallet of cash under dark of night & declare victory.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46571 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 4:08 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You guys love that

Author: Chris94  (38658 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:33 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Do you know why Iran's money was returned in cash? Because US banks - where Iran's frozen money was - could not wire it to Iranian banks.

I see the total is up in the billions now. I suppose it will be trillions someday.

In reality, the highest total I have seen is $150 million - maybe 10% in cash - and probably much less than that. But why worry about accuracy.


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A two second google search for an image of the pallet of cash showed Obama admin confirming $1.3B

Author: NedoftheHill  (46571 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:31 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Link: CNN: Obama Administration confirms two more payments to Iran, totaling $1.3 billion

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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BTW...we're now spending ~$1B/day, thanks to DJT tearing up the JCPOA...and not getting anywhere

Author: TyroneIrish  (24331 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:54 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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near where we were back in 2016, from a nuclear safety or economic sense...plus our conventional military strength has been dramatically diminished...and getting worse every day this war persists.

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ALL of the money was seized from Iran...not one penny of U.S. assets...and it was delivered in

Author: TyroneIrish  (24331 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:46 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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cash (various currencies) because Iran was frozen out of the SWIFT global banking system. A few more seconds of research would have gotten you that information.

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My memory failed me. Or needed an update.

Author: Chris94  (38658 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:08 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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I stand corrected.

Remains 0% taxpayer dollars, and 100% worthwhile.


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That was in addition to the $400M cash pallet.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46571 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:33 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Link: Just 2 days after Obama administration flew $400 million in cash to Iran the U.S. paid out $1.3B.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Say what you want about why it was cash, but that is how a terror organization would want the payoff

Author: NedoftheHill  (46571 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:37 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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After all, easier to pay Hamas to slaughter Jews with US cash/dollars accepted around the world than wire transfers or near worthless Iranian rials/dinars.

Do you know if the $1.3B was in physical cash? If not, then your argument that the $400M had to be made in physical cash is BS.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Been there...Done that...DJT "Obliterated" Iran's nuclear capability, and yet here we are. Your

Author: TyroneIrish  (24331 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:35 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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scenario doesn't address the existing 900+ lbs of 60% enriched uranium, nor the future of Iran's nuclear weapons development. Then there's the already demonstrated willingness of Iran's IRG to go to extraordinary lengths to remain in power vs. Trump's and Bibi's lack of patience...and their constantly blinking eye lids.

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Well, they have been set far back from where they were before we bombed them out of necessity.

Author: THEISMANCARR  (17993 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 5:15 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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Had DJT not torn up the JCPOA, Iran would not have enough 60% HEU to make several low-yield nuclear

Author: TyroneIrish  (24331 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:26 pm on Apr 28, 2026
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weapons (see link)...Trump has a major challenge now just to get back to where we were before he couldn't control his pettiness...and Bibi's Zionist conniving...

Link: https://thebulletin.org/2025/07/iran-can-still-build-nuclear-weapons-without-further-enrichment-only-diplomacy-will-stop-it/


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