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So DJT says the pope doesn’t understand that Iran can’t have nuclear weapons. WHO was it

Author: jimbasil  (54503 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 11:17 am on May 10, 2026
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that broke the JCPOA deal that was in place and has now cost hundreds of billions of dollars and killed US lives, crushed the US and global economy, handed US global strategic advantage to China and Russia?
Donald J Trump did this yet it’s the Pope who doesn’t get it.

This is the dumbfuckery that passes for brilliance in the MAGACULTbowel-movement!

Go ahead baron and the rest you MAGAmorons, square that round peg!


Trump - “I’m all about the gospel”.


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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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Thread Level: 2

JCPOA doesn’t end Iran nuclear weapon program. It is just a pause at best.

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:58 pm on May 10, 2026
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You obviously don’t understand JCPOA. So your logic doesn’t make sense.

JCPOA is a bad deal. But it doesn’t justify a war on Iran. Trump’s war on Iran is bad and stupid. But it doesn’t mean JCPOA is a good solution.


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Why do you always post wrong information. Now we’ve spent billions and billions on a war

Author: jimbasil  (54503 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 8:56 pm on May 10, 2026
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that won’t accomplish much of anything when the bullshitter negotiator finally stops bombing other than ruin the US economy and give Russia and China the upper hand in global affairs.

You should always remember before you post, you’re a dumbass.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

That is false. 100% false. I’ll explain one last time.

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:27 pm on May 10, 2026
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Every single arms control agreement in history has had a sunset clause. SALT was 8 years. The NPT is 5.

These deals do not expire - they are renegotiated and renewed. I promise you that was the assumption for the JCPOA. Neither side expected it to expire; neither side saw this as a temporary measure.

It is a false narrative.


Thread Level: 4

“they are renegotiated and renewed” You proved my “expired” point is correct. Thank you.

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:39 pm on May 10, 2026
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What leverage you have by then to renegotiate and renew with Iran after sunset clause? You already used/exchanged sanctions with a deal of 10-15 year pause.

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Both sides expected it to be renewed.

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:05 pm on May 10, 2026
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That is, if both sides lived up to their promises.

One side did. We didn’t.

Trust me on this one, Eli. Or don’t. But keep in mind that I teach a class called “weapons of mass destruction” - which, as I tell students, is a great class to take if you hate people.

I know a little about arms control.


Thread Level: 6

“Both sides” is problematic. The accurate term is “the moderate side of Iran and US side”.

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:41 pm on May 10, 2026
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There is a strong hardliner side in Iran. Iran is a strange country and no countries including China and Russia like Iran. But I will talk about that next time. The point to you here is no matter how good you’re on the subject of WMD, if you don’t understand Iran’s internal political affairs which is deeply divided and fail to link it to your nuclear agreement, i.e., you treat Iran as one united side, you will make mistakes.

Thread Level: 7

That is an opinion, based on nothing. The hardliners were on board with the JCPOA.

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:08 pm on May 10, 2026
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Thread Level: 8

Thats a fact. I’ll give you the fact later. JCPOA is Khamenei‘s call by balancing both sides of Iran

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:48 pm on May 10, 2026
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Thread Level: 6

It’s hard to overcome willful ignorance…

Author: TyroneIrish  (24421 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:16 pm on May 10, 2026
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3. JCPOA didn’t touch Iran’s nuclear delivery system, i.e. its missile program which is what Iran

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:17 pm on May 10, 2026
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has been focusing on. Just ask Israel how bad it is by Iran’s missiles this time. Israel punish anyone who show pictures of damages by Iran’s attack (5 years prison). Also, all 14 US ME military bases were hit very bad by Iran’s missiles and drones.

Thread Level: 4

This is true. But irrelevant.

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:31 pm on May 10, 2026
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No deal the United States is going to ever get will limit Iran’s missiles.

They are not scary without nuclear warheads, however.


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2. Limits on the amount of low-enriched uranium and the level of enrichment would expire on 2031

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:11 pm on May 10, 2026
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after 15 years from 2015. Iran will completely be free to make nuclear weapons since then.

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1. JCPOA’s restrictions on the number & type of centrifuges Iran can operate were set to end on 2026

Author: Eli  (9574 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:04 pm on May 10, 2026
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after 10 years from 2015. Iran would be allowed to have more advanced centrifuge research and increase enrichment after 2026.

Thread Level: 2

This Pope is much more moderate than Francis

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:12 pm on May 10, 2026
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But even the MAGA “Catholics” choose DJT over him every time.

But it’s not a cult.


Thread Level: 3

If you want to create a Catholic government, let's talk.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46636 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:43 pm on May 10, 2026
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I guarantee Democrats would walk away from the table first. You aren't even Catholic, and you think the abortion issue is humorous, as you have said many times.

Like Tyrone, you are just trying to use the Catholic religion as a political lever to get people to vote Democrat. Party first.

Using military force to remove an existential threat (that threat in this case being something the Iranians publicly state as their goal) is potentially justifiable under Catholic Doctrine. The Pope properly calls for peace and restraint. Two things can be true at once. You ignore this nuance because it runs counter to your TDS.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

You choose Trump over the Pope. Spin it however you like.

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:53 pm on May 10, 2026
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Thread Level: 5

Incorrect, of course. Although we know you choose party over Catholicism. Deny that.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46636 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:16 pm on May 10, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yesh, right Mr. Christian Taliban man.

Author: jimbasil  (54503 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 2:17 pm on May 10, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 5

Not sure that’s fair to the Taliban

Author: Chris94  (38734 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:57 pm on May 10, 2026
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Say what you want about the Taliban, Dude. But at least they have an ethos.

Thread Level: 6

False personal attacks just show the weakness of your position.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46636 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:17 pm on May 10, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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A Trumper “trumpeting” (pun intended) party first…comical

Author: Domer From Hell  (18141 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:56 pm on May 10, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 5

No one has identified anything incorrect about my post.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46636 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:19 pm on May 10, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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