The Art of the Deal… Iranian style. Our side is being outplayed.
They invented chess and their time table is Eternity.
There was never anyway to beat them. I’d like that Obama understood this but he chose the useless strategy of appeasement
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Stopping a disastrous, unnecessary war quickly is better than after 8 years
It’s better to pull the plug on this fucking disaster now rather than later. The hawks would like us to invade.
You’d think we would have learned. But no.
We probably could have gotten a deal from Hitler before Normandy…
and saved a million casualties…TEMPORARILY.
And then Adolf would get the bomb and he already had rockets.
If the mullahs remain in power they will continue funding terror throughout the Middle East and beyond and eventually they will build a nuke
Iran is not Hitler’s Germany; this is not WW2; that’s a stupid analogy
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When dealing with a concrete thinker, analogies must either 1) be EXACT since the capacity for
inferring the greater point is lacking with limited imagination, or 2) be in agreement with what the concrete thinker wants to believe (he still won't understand it fully, but he will pretend since it helps his cause).
Compare and contrast
Both regimes:
Brutally repressive dictatorships.
Believe in their eternal destiny
Have secret police to control the masses.
Attack their neighbors without cause
Have allies who are enemies of the US
Have conned appeasement from naive heads of state
Want to commit genocide against Jews
Have worked on building nukes
Cannot be trusted to keep and treaties
Are motivated and compelled by HATE
What’s pathetic is you MAGAnuts rewriting facts to fit your bullshit.
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As the Dems criticize a deal regarding which they know nothing.
There may come a time to criticize the deal, but to do so now, when you know nothing, is just political partisanship. You are telling people that you hate the shit that will be served for dinner, when the table hasn't even been set.
Hell, Conor, a former freakin' marine, is hoping for a loss for the US. Shameful and embarrassing for him, and for all of you agreeing with him.
Wait and see, and if it is a bad deal, then criticize it. Until then, you are just making things up.
It’s a constant barrage of false statements and rewrites by MAGAnuts attempting to
create a new narrative to give trump and his brain-dead administration the illusion of competency. Curly’s is a perfect example of it. His statement - “ I’d like that Obama understood this but he chose the useless strategy of appeasement”.
You all may have disagreed with Obama but the facts still remain - his deal with Iran was a success in doing what djt can no longer get. Djt’s war was a catastrophic bungle. Hegseth called religion into the attack, djt called it a regime change and the GOP calls it a confrontation (not a war - to skirt legal liability).
That is "beyond comprehensive ridiculousness".
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Rewrites of what? Send me both drafts.
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From the guy who still supports Trump’s decision to have launched the war in the first place.
Again Ned,
What was the objective?
What was the justification?
What was the legal and/or constitutional authority?
What were the risks? Immediate and long term?
What are the costs? Short term and long term?
Any economic consequences?
Did invading Iran strengthen or weaken the United States standing in the Middle East and globally?
Did invading Iran strengthen or weaken our national security?
None of these questions were meaningfully considered by Trump 8 weeks ago. And hence, it’s been a colossal and costly mess. Fact.
Yet, Ned the Cheerleader is hoping “the deal” will make all of the above questions immaterial. As Chris has aptly stated, any deal to end the war is better than continuing the war. We are cutting our losses. Yet, it is a defeat as “regime change” was the objective per Trump’s own words.
No nukes for a terrorist regime.
When did we invade Iran?
Are you still concerned (or cheering for) "total defeat."
I'm prepared to criticize the deal. I'm just not making stuff up about it, creating strawman I can tear apart, so I can score pre-midterm election domestic political points. The stakes are higher than that. But, please, by all means, why don't you continue to hope for failure and "total defeat" of the United States.
No matter the specific details, you at least agree Iran is going to get something out of this,right?
Hence my post earlier this month of basically JCPOA 2. But you guys will be like "no this is so much better, blah blah blah!"
They will get a cessation of strikes, ability to export.
Hopefully they will not get a US funded path to terrorism and nuclear weapons, like they had under the JCPOA. Amazing that you can think that was a good deal.
Perhaps if you are an anti-colonialist who hates the West, you can like that deal.
Or, perhaps you are just not paying attention.
I will wait until after the deal is done to criticize or praise the deal. We'll see.
But, if people are worried about it being a good deal for the United States, then they should definitely criticize it early and often.
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