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An interesting article on COVID research vis a vis trust discussion below.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 2:27 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10089824/

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Thread Level: 2

A perfect time for me to (once again) take Ty to the woodshed

Author: MarkHarman  (7826 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:18 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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For the life of me, Ty, I have no idea why you keep hanging your hat on saying his own colleagues at Yale University School of Medicine "rebuked" Dr. Risch, when all they did was disagree with his article he wrote for Newsweek.

Dr. Risch, more than a year later, THEN wrote his definitive paper proving HCQ+ worked extremely well, a paper his colleagues never weighed in on. In that paper, he admitted a study he previously cited was invalid, but then went on to deftly answer each and every criticism of his earlier work in that very paper you absolutely and childishly refused to read.

Your boy Fauchino's refusal to bless HCQ+ as a treatment cost over 500,000 Americans their lives. And that's a fact.


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I assume that Dr. Risch still works for Yale's Med School, and is on the Editorial Board of the

Author: TyroneIrish  (24637 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 2:59 am on Jun 6, 2026
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American Journal of Epidemiology...so, many if not all of those Peers who told him he was dead wrong to promote HCQ+ have been able to review all his work to the present day....get back to me when they show evidence of changing their mind.

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From the article’s Abstract…”…but currently, we are only getting half the data…

Author: TyroneIrish  (24637 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:24 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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…the What butt not the Why.”

Nonetheless, that doesn’t stop Baron from insinuating a vast Left controlled political conspiracy…in spite of clear evidence on this forum that one retraction was the result of American Journal of Epidemiology Editorial Board members apologizing for having published a paper on discredited COVID treatment, HCQ+ authored by one of their own colleagues.


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In other words - the information learned by studying C19 the more earlier analysis becomes stale

Author: jimbasil  (54620 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 2:48 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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therefore the older versions are eliminated from the public sphere to be replaced by newer information and methods of combating it and its mutations.

The information isn’t being retracted as if from some misstatement or some incorrect announcement to a reporter. It’s the process of science.
Example, the rockets used to launch the Apollo project are not the same as rockets used today - they have been modified, as science learns different and better ways to send astronauts into space.

You really try too hard to bad mouth anything and anyone who isn’t hard right extremist MAGAcult.


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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Lol. Let's leave this for those who a) read the article, and b) understood it.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:20 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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On the other hand - you should retract all of your posts.

Author: jimbasil  (54620 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 4:57 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Jim, articles were retracted for their poor quality due to various concerning reasons, not

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 5:08 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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because they researchers learned more later.

If “stale Information” (ie old info that has been updated by new discovery) were a cause for retraction of articles, most prior research would be be removed from the literature (which, of course, it is not).

Retractions are done for various reasons including poor study design that was overlooked by the journal editors and never should have been published, false data…ie the author fudged results.

You clearly don’t understand this article, and from your many past posts and interactions, I know that you don’t. You simply manage all topics from the lens of your extreme left wing politics.
This will be my last post n this to you because I do not wish to waste any further time in the fruitless endeavor of trying to explain things to you. Just sit this one out.

Now go ahead and get your ad hominem I. So that you can feel like you have saved face.


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Very interesting, thanks. But wait for it!

Author: Frankx  (6425 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)
Posted at 2:46 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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Wait for...?

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:22 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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Thread Level: 4

Your boy Ty

Author: Frankx  (6425 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)
Posted at 4:51 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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Ah. Google Doc. The fly still buzzes around. He desperately wants to be seen as an expert

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:59 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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So, I am sure he will consult his propaganda AI for a spin option.

After all of this time, to still be stalking me says a lot about how fragile his ego is as well as how badly I bruised it.
He acts like I hit him with all 52 clubs in The Babe’s bag.


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LOL...as if you never peek..yeah, right...;-) Baron still hides behind a claim that never happened..

Author: TyroneIrish  (24637 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 8:33 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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and why?...because of all the posters here, I'm to one who can...and has...proven him to be wrong beyond any doubt about his misinformation and outright lies about all things COVID-19. I welcome anyone to challenge me on that statement.

Baron also fears the reality of our family ID and Pulmonary/Critical Care Docs...I've given him enough info on their outstanding medical pedigrees...that only a Doc like him would appreciate. While they have made it abundantly clear they don't want to waste their time on Baron, if any deep medical knowledge is needed wrt Infectious Diseases, like COVID, they are always available...for the sole purpose of making sure that others are not misinformed by a "Not So Good" MD...of which, sadly, some do exist.

The mere fact thet Baron won't stand up and defend himself demonstrates that he indeed is on the wrong side. Just claiming an opinion...without any evidence or debate...is a losing proposition...every time...yet he persists...and I'll continue to do the dirty work of cleaning up after him...for the good of all those on this Forum, be they with me, or against.


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Now, now...don't make him dust off his anecdotal family doctors..

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35341 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:40 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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"Why...we were all discussing this just last night..."

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Ah yes, the convenient family specialists. Well, I have never shied away from medical parrhesia.....

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63236 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 10:15 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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.....even in the face of such illusory expertise.

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Typical MAGA...if something threatens your fantasy, you just deny the reality...even if you have no

Author: TyroneIrish  (24637 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 8:39 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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possible way of refuting it. Is this how you conduct the rest of your life?

Thread Level: 8

Take your own advice. Knute is as much MAGA as you are self-aware

Author: irish93  (1987 Posts - Joined: Nov 2, 2009)
Posted at 9:30 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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He knows…but is very comfortable lying. Throw it on the steaming pile he leaves here.

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35341 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:38 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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I am no fan of Trump…and have never voted for him. Facts are funny things…always trying to be massaged by Ty’s manipulative hands.

Thanks for paying attention and setting the record straight.


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Since I've never lied, you have a real problem avoiding taking ownership of that term...I invite you

Author: TyroneIrish  (24637 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:16 am on Jun 6, 2026
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to try and back it up...go for it.

Again...those family ID/ICU Docs and their COVID expertise were a key factor in my decision to join the UHND OF and provide Truth to all the misinformation being spread by the resident Doc here...Baron...as well as others. Note, that their expertise and knowledge is the consensus judgement of thousands of others in their fields.


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Narcissism… and beyond.

Author: Frankx  (6425 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)
Posted at 5:06 pm on Jun 5, 2026
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