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perhaps since a lib said this on a lib channel,libs will finally wake up.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan  (17011 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:45 am on Jun 15, 2026
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Link: https://x.com/spencerpratt/status/2066197429469212773?s=46

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How did CNN help Pratt lose?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7615 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 2:19 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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“Los Angeles is becoming a sunny version of Detroit”. Ouch.

Author: TampaIrish  (12565 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:59 am on Jun 15, 2026
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But hey, it’s beautiful and the leadership hates Trump so everything is fine.

I hold the record for most deleted posts. +127. Certain posters must be protected!
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Detroit has 6 months/yr of warm weather, LA has 12 months/yr of poop in streets & traffic jams

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63279 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:31 am on Jun 16, 2026
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The D is in much better shape than La La Land.

Author: Curly1918  (17954 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 12:31 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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We went thru Bankruptcy and cleared out the corruption rot from decades of Dem machine rule.

Thanks to our having four magnificent seasons we've never had a serious homeless problem.

Our race relations are probably the best in the country (in a city of >80% blacks we've a had a two term white mayor).

The big problem in Michigan is the liberal white women mafia that run the state (an overreaction to the Trump misogyny).

Fortunately, our public service unions do not have a choke hold on our public finances.


Link: https://detroitmi.gov/news/capping-historic-turnaround-detroit-now-leads-michigan-population-growth

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The bankruptcy was necessary but “The D” is no longer in the top 25 US cities by population…

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35360 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:27 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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Very true. A hard fall from having once been 4th. There's a lesson here for those willing to learn.

Author: Curly1918  (17954 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 1:50 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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Life is about adaptability to constant change. Our blue regions seem stuck in the past.

Detroit got locked into a corruption cycle of union dominance and race baiting.

California seems to be following this same path.


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Some context for Ty's post....

Author: WestCoastIrishFan  (17011 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:35 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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>Increase in Public Employees...actually, CA sits near the middle among all states in the percentage of Public Employees per 100,000 residents (#19)...lower than Michigan (#6), or FLA (#3)...so that shouldn't be a factor in his assessment of Governance...NB:...his chart shows step function increases after a) the Great Recession, and b) the COVID-19 pandemic...not surprising, given all the public assistance needed. TY ISN'T READING THE CHART CORRECTLY. LOTS OF GOVT EMPLOYEES PER 10,000 RESIDENTS IS CONSIDERED BAD IN THE CHART HE POSTED. CALIFORNIA HAS GONE FROM 4TH AS RECENTLY AS 2014 TO 19TH THIS YEAR. CALIFORNIA IS WORSE THAN ILLINOIS.

>Demise of L.A.'s Hollywood Industry...Fareed leaves out the Root Cause impact of newer technology on the traditional Movie Industry...i.e. Streaming...Digital Graphics...AI, and the effects on everyone from Screen Actors, Screen Writers and Set Designers, to name a few. This has very little, if anything, to do with "Governance" by L.A. public officials...whatever the party. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TECHNOLOGY AND EVERYTHING TO WITH SAG AND LOCAL LAWS. WHEN ITS CHEAPER AND EASIER FOR COMPANIES TO FILM IN OTHER COUNTRIES, YOU KNOW SOMETHING STINKS. AS AN EXAMPLE, I WORKED FOR A COMPANY WHO FLEW ALL STAFF TO SOUTH AFRICA TO FILM A COMMERCIAL AT A CHEAPER COST THAN FILMING IT IN LA.

>Emigration from CA...even FLA and TX are seeing significant outflows of their Lower and Middle Income residents due to extremely high Insurance costs (if available at all, outside of the state coffers) and Climate Change impacts (Flooding, Wind Damage, etc.) STATES TRADING LOWER INCOME RESIDENT FOR WEALTHY RESIDENTS, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD THING.

There are other root causes for such disruptions/challenges in many states...and I'll add another one...our exceedingly high and expanding 'Wealth Gap'...sometimes referred to as the "K-Shaped Economy". CALIFORNIA IS AMONG THE WORST STATES WHEN IT COMES TO INCOME INEQUALITY. IRONICALLY, THE WEALTH GAP SHRUNK DURING TRUMP 45 AND EXPANDED AGAIN WITH BIDEN.


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the exponential rise in govt alongside a declining population and failed policies is the one that

Author: WestCoastIrishFan  (17011 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:05 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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really got my attention. of course, that’s also why I left the state a more than a decade ago.

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I don’t think you understood what he was saying. You should give it another listen only this time,

Author: jimbasil  (54651 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 11:42 am on Jun 15, 2026
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listen.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I listened several times and even Tyrone would have trouble finding a pony in this pile of shit.

Author: Curly1918  (17954 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 12:45 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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It's inevitable when you have a one party system of government.

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LOL...Good One there, Curly...I have to admit there's no 'Pony' in Fareed's commentary...

Author: TyroneIrish  (24698 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 7:03 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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As much as I enjoy his perspectives, IMO he focuses more on Symptoms, than Root Causes...which aren't necessarily Government or Party related. Also, he left out some important comparisons, while focusing solely on CA...for instance (forgive the edits as I bring in links to help explain)...

>Increase in Public Employees...actually, CA sits near the middle among all states in the percentage of Public Employees per 100,000 residents (#19)...lower than Michigan (#6), or FLA (#3)...so that shouldn't be a factor in his assessment of Governance...NB:...his chart shows step function increases after a) the Great Recession, and b) the COVID-19 pandemic...not surprising, given all the public assistance needed.

https://www.richstatespoorstates.org/variables/public_employees_per_10000/

>Demise of L.A.'s Hollywood Industry...Fareed leaves out the Root Cause impact of newer technology on the traditional Movie Industry...i.e. Streaming...Digital Graphics...AI, and the effects on everyone from Screen Actors, Screen Writers and Set Designers, to name a few. This has very little, if anything, to do with "Governance" by L.A. public officials...whatever the party.

>Emigration from CA...even FLA and TX are seeing significant outflows of their Lower and Middle Income residents due to extremely high Insurance costs (if available at all, outside of the state coffers) and Climate Change impacts (Flooding, Wind Damage, etc.)

https://www.wsj.com/economy/floridas-population-boom-fizzles-as-high-costs-drive-away-middle-class-fbc6a345

There are other root causes for such disruptions/challenges in many states...and I'll add another one...our exceedingly high and expanding 'Wealth Gap'...sometimes referred to as the "K-Shaped Economy".

I will add one "Pony" for CA however...at least the state is acknowledging the K-Economy and taking steps to deal iwth it, while other states refuse to see the obvious imbalance and its effect on the large majority of their citizens.


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It’s clear he’s saying government and industry have not done well for all

Author: jimbasil  (54651 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 2:21 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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the citizens of California.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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"Industry" is not in the business of "doing well" for anyone but its owners.

Author: Curly1918  (17954 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 3:01 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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And government should not be in the business of chasing industry away.

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Take that up with Fareed!

Author: jimbasil  (54651 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 7:23 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I heard the state is badly mismanaged. What did you hear?

Author: MarkHarman  (7837 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:04 pm on Jun 15, 2026
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