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Iranian nuclear threat eliminated & war ended. Big day for Trump. Really big, maybe the biggest ever

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63279 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:16 am on Jun 16, 2026
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The market likes it.
Gas prices like it.
American security and way of life likes it.
World security likes it.

Guess who hates it?
1) The Democrat Party - Iran's greatest ally. Frankly, Iran would be lying yet again if they weren't terrified of a POTUS who was willing to back his threat of taking Kharg Island. And they KNEW he would do it, unlike recent past appeasers who occupied the office.
I hope that peace lasts, but I am quite sure that Iran will break the agreement if the Democrats offer them hope of gumming up the effort here on the US home front.
Expect Dems and their MSM mouthpiece to begin trying undermine the deal by misreporting on the details - that will happen almost immediately.
We'll see how long it can last despite their efforts.

2) Putin hates it too. Iran was a very helpful ally to Russia.

One might consider this ironic if he forgot about Liberalism Rule #1: Accuse others of that which you yourself are/so. Dems side with Putin yet again. Putin lovers.


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What’s the deal? Bizarro knows more than Lindsay Graham.

Author: Quest4twelve  (7616 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 10:59 am on Jun 16, 2026
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You mean a ceasefire, open Hormuz, begin talks - that’s odd, that’s exactly what was in place before

Author: jimbasil  (54653 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 9:07 am on Jun 16, 2026
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non-regime change attempt to free the Iranian people who had no nuclear weapons program until trump nixed the agreement set by Obama - that’s winning under trump - djt starts war, spends hundreds of billions, depletes US armaments stockpiles makes US less safe, celebrates with violence on Whitehouse front lawn with no completion of Epstein files but gaudy inflation numbers continue to get worse.

Brilliant MAGAMORON, let’s celebrate your stupidity.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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To the contrary, Trump lost. Iran won.

Author: conorlarkin  (22739 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:21 am on Jun 16, 2026
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The preliminary deal ending President Trump’s four-month war with Iran is welcome but brings with it hard truths. Mr. Trump made a terrible mistake starting this war. He prosecuted it recklessly and in open defiance of the law. The United States is emerging weaker — militarily, diplomatically and economically — and will pay strategic costs for years to come.

The details of the deal are unclear, but the announced framework suggests that Mr. Trump has won few of the terms he insisted that he would. It is a humiliating comedown for him and the nation he leads.

Since the war began, he has said the United States would achieve “total and complete victory” and that Iran must agree to “unconditional surrender.” He suggested that regime change would occur. He said that Iran would be permitted “no enrichment” of uranium and that “the United States will, working with Iran, dig up and remove all of the deeply buried” near-bomb-grade nuclear material that it already holds.

None of this appears to be true. Iran’s hard-line government remains in place. The specifics of the nuclear agreement will apparently be negotiated over the next two months, but the terms seem likely to resemble those of a 2015 deal that President Barack Obama negotiated and that Mr. Trump canceled in 2018. He described the Obama agreement as the “worst deal ever” and said it put Iran on “a route to a nuclear weapon.” He criticized it for failing to force Iran to stop supporting terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and for loosening economic sanctions. Yet his destructive war seems likely to leave him with a similar deal.

His biggest achievement in the cease-fire framework is the expected reopening of the Strait of Hormuz to global shipping traffic, which will eventually reduce the prices of energy and other goods. That, of course, is merely a reversion to the prewar status quo. Iran closed the strait in retaliation, to damage the global economy and increase political pressure on the United States. The move worked, and Iran’s leaders now understand that they hold a powerful economic weapon.

On balance, Iran emerges the strategic winner of the four-month war. It did suffer substantial losses, including much of its navy, air force, military-industrial capacity and political leadership, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, who was killed on the war’s first day. With the war ending, however, Iran’s leadership can begin rebuilding.
The United States, for its part, looks weaker in the eyes of the world. The American military has shown itself unable to quash a much smaller opponent even as it burned through many of its long-range precision missiles and interceptors. The outcome damages this country’s ability to deter other potential adversaries.

The regime has demonstrated that it can survive waves of attacks from its two biggest enemies. Its leaders have not had to abandon their nuclear ambitions. And they have learned that the rest of the world seems unwilling to use military force to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. If Iran chooses to close the strait at some point in the coming months or years, what will Mr. Trump do in response?

We lay out these facts with no pleasure. Iran has been and remains a force for ill. It represses its own people, especially political dissidents, women, L.G.B.T.Q. people and religious minorities. It is a world leader in torture and executions, and it has financed terrorism in its region and far beyond. Iran’s leaders have impoverished a country where per capita income was above the global average as recently as the 1970s.

The regime’s distinct brutality should have been reason for the United States to think carefully and plan cautiously for any war. The history of modern American wars, particularly in Iran’s region, is full of hubris that incubated defeat. Yet Mr. Trump eschewed thoughtful planning at every step.

He accepted the rose-colored assessment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who predicted that the Iranian regime would quickly fall. Mr. Trump dismissed the views of his aides who told him that Mr. Netanyahu’s forecast was farcical. Mr. Trump ignored the Constitution and refused to seek congressional approval for the war. He did not listen to European and Asian allies who opposed his war. He failed to plan for Iran’s obvious ability to close the Strait of Hormuz. He made threats about destroying Iranian civilization that succeeded only in diminishing America’s moral standing.

For his sins, he has now agreed to a peace framework that the entire world understands is a defeat for him. It is a setback for America, too.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/opinion/-trump-lost-war-iran.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Down comes the Ukraine flag and up goes the Iran flag. Go Iran Go!!

Author: TampaIrish  (12566 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:39 am on Jun 16, 2026
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I hold the record for most deleted posts. +127. Certain posters must be protected!

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