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Iranian nuclear threat eliminated & war ended. Big day for Trump. Really big, maybe the biggest ever

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:16 am on Jun 16, 2026
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The market likes it.
Gas prices like it.
American security and way of life likes it.
World security likes it.

Guess who hates it?
1) The Democrat Party - Iran's greatest ally. Frankly, Iran would be lying yet again if they weren't terrified of a POTUS who was willing to back his threat of taking Kharg Island. And they KNEW he would do it, unlike recent past appeasers who occupied the office.
I hope that peace lasts, but I am quite sure that Iran will break the agreement if the Democrats offer them hope of gumming up the effort here on the US home front.
Expect Dems and their MSM mouthpiece to begin trying undermine the deal by misreporting on the details - that will happen almost immediately.
We'll see how long it can last despite their efforts.

2) Putin hates it too. Iran was a very helpful ally to Russia.

One might consider this ironic if he forgot about Liberalism Rule #1: Accuse others of that which you yourself are/do. Dems side with Putin yet again. Putin lovers.


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It’s 60-day ceasefire not end of war, Baron. This war accomplishes nothing without a nuclear deal

Author: Eli  (9641 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:03 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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which will be next round negotiation within this period of 60 days.

Please note, Israel is not the party of this ceasefire negotiation. But this ceasefire includes ceasefire in Lebanon. Israel is extremely upset about it. So, the ceasefire is fragile. Keep the fingers crossed.

Also please note Trump initiated the call with NY Times (I don’t know why Trump repeatedly does it to MSM) about the ceasefire deal in which he thanked Xi of China and Putin of Russia for the role they played during this period Of war. Your “Putin hates it too” is purely your imagination.


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Nuclear threat CURTAILED.

Author: Curly1918  (17960 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 1:16 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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It had to be done... to prevent Israel from making a first strike to eliminate an existential threat.

This is why the JCPOA was a useless political scam... it did nothing to restrain Israel, which was well aware of Iran's nuclear chicanery.

Now the trick will be enforcement and verification.


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It was eliminated, but it can always re emerge down the line w/out vigilance. Consider when voting.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:23 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Iran is not high on the list of my reasons for voting... if it even makes the list.

Author: Curly1918  (17960 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 1:30 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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My general motive is stemming the tide of government growth.

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They would be if they had nukes...believe me.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:34 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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I mean NOW that the Iranian threat is seriously diminished.

Author: Curly1918  (17960 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 1:56 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Unless you feel that the Dems would begin actively supporting Iran rearming or would oppose an expanded Abraham Accords.

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Clinton gave N. Korea nuclear technology; Obama funded/gave Iran a path to nuclear arms...

Author: NedoftheHill  (46867 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 3:33 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Heck, even Ted Kennedy tried to collude with the Soviets, offering to reverse Reagan's "militaristic" policies if they could help him get elected.

In the case of Iran, the Democrats have been trying to protect Iran from Trump all along, and constantly parrot Iranian talking points in US media. (No need to note that a large portion of Democrat supporters hate Israel, and would support a Democrat with a Nazi tattoo, but not a Democrat with a Jewish tattoo.)

Given all of that, is there any reason to think that Democrats won't assist Iran just to spite Trump? This would have been unthinkable in the past. Old school Democrats would have just taken the Trump win, and moved forward. But, today, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to reverse his policies out of spite for him, and contrary to the interests of the United States.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Well said. Dems have also ivested SO deeply in JCPOA that they will try to reinstitute it the first

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 3:45 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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chance that they get.

Thread Level: 9

How many Dems have actually read JCPOA?

Author: ELP  (11566 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)
Posted at 4:18 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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What’s the deal? Bizarro knows more than Lindsay Graham.

Author: Quest4twelve  (7616 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 10:59 am on Jun 16, 2026
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When I see bizarro I think of Bavaro..

Author: THEISMANCARR  (18033 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 3:28 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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You mean a ceasefire, open Hormuz, begin talks - that’s odd, that’s exactly what was in place before

Author: jimbasil  (54655 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 9:07 am on Jun 16, 2026
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non-regime change attempt to free the Iranian people who had no nuclear weapons program until trump nixed the agreement set by Obama - that’s winning under trump - djt starts war, spends hundreds of billions, depletes US armaments stockpiles makes US less safe, celebrates with violence on Whitehouse front lawn with no completion of Epstein files but gaudy inflation numbers continue to get worse.

Brilliant MAGAMORON, let’s celebrate your stupidity.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 3

One exception right now their military force is eliminated. And that's just one. We are way

Author: THEISMANCARR  (18033 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 3:32 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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better off now. The market proves it. But hell Trump could have never been in office when it went to 50,000, right?

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Iran proved it had delivery missiles w/ range of thousands of mi & were weeks from nuc weapon capabi

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:34 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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They fired missiles at Diego Garcia that could easily reach European cities (not to mention their threat as terrorists with smuggling in weapons through unsecured borders and their pending ability to destroy Israel).... More importantly, they were on the brink of nuclear weapons capability - Obama and Biden's facilitation of Iranian efforts with the JCPOA agreement which provided them with the economic means (pallets of released cash) and time to deceive.
They were playing the exact same game with the IAEA who was never able to certify them as being in compliance as they have been playing with these peace deal negotiations.

But you are right and we agree on something - We are now in the same position that we were in before the attack....except now the Iranian nuclear threat is gone.

Thank you 47!!!! Your bombastic, but you get things done!


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Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - sound familiar?

Author: jimbasil  (54655 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 1:20 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Obama had a deal in place - djt reneged, Iran started working on weapons - circle logic at work for you MAGAidiots.

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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Oh come on, not even close. Trump even pointed out Bush's bullshit.

Author: THEISMANCARR  (18033 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)
Posted at 3:34 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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A much better example would be N Korea where Obama waited too long.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:32 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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and when you wait too long, you can no longer do anything about it.

Obama's program facilitated Iran who was dissembling to the IAEA - they were NOT cooperating - just stalling as they do now in peace negotiations.
Obama made the cash available to them, and then kicked the can down the road until they would eventually get their nuclear weapon capability....THEN, we would truly know disaster.

You libs (and Iran) also claimed that they didn't have the missiles that they later revealed through use that they had.

But, of course, you choose to trust the proven liars Iran over your own country that they were on the verge of nuclear weapon capability because.......TDS.


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You’re inventing a story to win an unwinnable fact. You post more bullshit daily.

Author: jimbasil  (54655 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 1:36 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You either have a memory problem or you are insulated from real news from biased sources.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:00 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Either way, you don't add anything other than name calling.
You demand proof, and then when provided, you deny it. Discussing any political topic with you is pointless your hatred of Trump overrides all reason.

Btw, on the locked thread below, you accused bigotry while mocking Christians. You were jabbing at the segment of Christians who take the timeline of the Bible literally wrt creation despite the scientific evidence. I responded in kind to by pointing out that the very existence of human kind is founded on the relationship between a man and a woman to point out that your views on a related topic ignore scientific fact as well. My intent was to highlight the irony of your comment and your lack of self awareness. Of course, it was a waste of time.
You like to dish it out, but you can't take it. When you poke at another group, it is just fine, but when your ox is gored, you consider it bigotry.
In truth, neither side should do it.


Thread Level: 2

To the contrary, Trump lost. Iran won.

Author: conorlarkin  (22739 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:21 am on Jun 16, 2026
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Excerpts:

The preliminary deal ending President Trump’s four-month war with Iran is welcome but brings with it hard truths. Mr. Trump made a terrible mistake starting this war. He prosecuted it recklessly and in open defiance of the law. The United States is emerging weaker — militarily, diplomatically and economically — and will pay strategic costs for years to come.

The details of the deal are unclear, but the announced framework suggests that Mr. Trump has won few of the terms he insisted that he would. It is a humiliating comedown for him and the nation he leads.

Since the war began, he has said the United States would achieve “total and complete victory” and that Iran must agree to “unconditional surrender.” He suggested that regime change would occur. He said that Iran would be permitted “no enrichment” of uranium and that “the United States will, working with Iran, dig up and remove all of the deeply buried” near-bomb-grade nuclear material that it already holds.

None of this appears to be true. Iran’s hard-line government remains in place. The specifics of the nuclear agreement will apparently be negotiated over the next two months, but the terms seem likely to resemble those of a 2015 deal that President Barack Obama negotiated and that Mr. Trump canceled in 2018. He described the Obama agreement as the “worst deal ever” and said it put Iran on “a route to a nuclear weapon.” He criticized it for failing to force Iran to stop supporting terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and for loosening economic sanctions. Yet his destructive war seems likely to leave him with a similar deal.

His biggest achievement in the cease-fire framework is the expected reopening of the Strait of Hormuz to global shipping traffic, which will eventually reduce the prices of energy and other goods. That, of course, is merely a reversion to the prewar status quo. Iran closed the strait in retaliation, to damage the global economy and increase political pressure on the United States. The move worked, and Iran’s leaders now understand that they hold a powerful economic weapon.

On balance, Iran emerges the strategic winner of the four-month war. It did suffer substantial losses, including much of its navy, air force, military-industrial capacity and political leadership, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, who was killed on the war’s first day. With the war ending, however, Iran’s leadership can begin rebuilding.
The United States, for its part, looks weaker in the eyes of the world. The American military has shown itself unable to quash a much smaller opponent even as it burned through many of its long-range precision missiles and interceptors. The outcome damages this country’s ability to deter other potential adversaries.

The regime has demonstrated that it can survive waves of attacks from its two biggest enemies. Its leaders have not had to abandon their nuclear ambitions. And they have learned that the rest of the world seems unwilling to use military force to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. If Iran chooses to close the strait at some point in the coming months or years, what will Mr. Trump do in response?

We lay out these facts with no pleasure. Iran has been and remains a force for ill. It represses its own people, especially political dissidents, women, L.G.B.T.Q. people and religious minorities. It is a world leader in torture and executions, and it has financed terrorism in its region and far beyond. Iran’s leaders have impoverished a country where per capita income was above the global average as recently as the 1970s.

The regime’s distinct brutality should have been reason for the United States to think carefully and plan cautiously for any war. The history of modern American wars, particularly in Iran’s region, is full of hubris that incubated defeat. Yet Mr. Trump eschewed thoughtful planning at every step.

He accepted the rose-colored assessment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, who predicted that the Iranian regime would quickly fall. Mr. Trump dismissed the views of his aides who told him that Mr. Netanyahu’s forecast was farcical. Mr. Trump ignored the Constitution and refused to seek congressional approval for the war. He did not listen to European and Asian allies who opposed his war. He failed to plan for Iran’s obvious ability to close the Strait of Hormuz. He made threats about destroying Iranian civilization that succeeded only in diminishing America’s moral standing.

For his sins, he has now agreed to a peace framework that the entire world understands is a defeat for him. It is a setback for America, too.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/opinion/-trump-lost-war-iran.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Bwahahahaha!!!!! Maybe you guys can put green dye in the repaired Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool?

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:36 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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Anything to try to undo anything that Trump tires to do that is good.

I saw a group of Big City Snowbird Boomer summer transplants holding signs and chanting in the town where I live in the downtown main drive.
The men had long gray hair bunched up in ponytails, and the women were unkept white haired nuts and granola Berkenstockers. All of them - leftovers from Woodstock who have been miserable their whole lives, but have always made sure to benefit handsomely from the country and capitalism that they hate.
It was the same thing that I saw in Boston during a "No Kings" protest.

They had signs calling to honk if you hate Orange.
It was dead silent driving by except for their raging.


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P.S. conor - please stop siding with Putin.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63287 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:50 pm on Jun 16, 2026
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