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So our president had 7 months to evacuate Afghanistan

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Aug 26, 2021
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with boots on the ground and full control of both airports.

He severely overestimated the Afghan military.

That’s on him. Period.


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He had to have ignored sound military advice

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Aug 26, 2021
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No sane military person would advise a President to turn over our bases to the enemy and end air support for the Afghans who were actually fighting before evacuating all US citizens and Afghan people who had already been granted visas. That is the most ass backward “strategy” anyone could possibly come up with.

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Except your own linked post says that the military did want to shut down Bagram early.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Aug 26, 2021
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“First, Pentagon officials said they could pull out the remaining 3,500 American troops, almost all deployed at Bagram Air Base, by July 4 — two months earlier than the Sept. 11 deadline Mr. Biden had set. The plan would mean closing the airfield that was the American military hub in Afghanistan, but Defense Department officials did not want a dwindling, vulnerable force and the risks of service members dying in a war declared lost.“

You do read the shite you link, dontcha?


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I said sound military advice- not the jerkwads Biden put in charge

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 3:10 am on Aug 27, 2021
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Take your head out of your ass. Your scumbag President told the military how many troops they could have- evidently the assholes just said “yes sir” and never pushed, or understood, or cared how many troops would be needed for a safe planned withdrawal.


“Another decision that is almost certain to draw scrutiny from lawmakers is the Pentagon’s decision to close Bagram air base more than six weeks ago, when the mission to evacuate America’s closest allies had barely begun. The sprawling airfield, with two runways, is about 35 miles north of Kabul and would have offered an alternative to the single-runway airport there.”

“No one in their right mind would have closed Bagram Air Base while leaving behind thousands of civilians. But that’s what Joe Biden did,” Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) wrote on Twitter.

“Cotton’s criticism was echoed by most military experts with experience in the region. Barno, who commanded all U.S. forces in Afghanistan during the early years of the war, said that in his experience, “Kabul international airport is virtually indefensible.”

“Laurel Miller, who worked as a special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, said the U.S. approach to the final days of the war also seemed to defy planning from several years earlier that concluded that any large-scale evacuation without Bagram or Kandahar air bases was going to be nearly impossible.”

“We expected it would be problematic to rely on the airport in an evacuation scenario because having to evacuate would mean the situation had deteriorated gravely already and many Afghans and other countries’ citizens would be desperate to get out,” Miller said.
Another former senior U.S. military commander, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity, said that keeping Bagram open would have been a “safer bet.”
“It would have given us many tactical options right to the end, not the least being its defensibility,” the retired general said. “As the humanitarian situation deteriorated and then collapsed, operating out of Bagram could also have provided a better platform for supporting humanitarian processing at Kabul, or even at Bagram itself.”
Asked about the decision to close Bagram, Milley said that the “task given to us” after the military withdrawal was to protect the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, and that keeping Bagram and a military base at the Kabul airport would have required a “significant number of military forces that would have exceeded what we had.”


Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2021/08/18/afghanistan-pentagon-fall-of-kabul/

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Milley there just said exactly what I claim.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:39 am on Aug 27, 2021
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You do know that Joe didn’t appoint him?

So what would all you emotees have said if we lost lives defending it when we were giving it back to the Afghans?


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Also ignored IC warning&falsely reassured, removed soldiers before civilians,relied on Taliban for

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:45 pm on Aug 26, 2021
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security, and most egregiously yet gave the Taliban a list names of Americans in Kabul which is tantamount to a torture and then death sentence.

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