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In 2015, the Obama admin leaked details of the JCPOA…

Author: Chris94  (38883 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:42 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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…that were much weaker than the real components of the deal, in order to manipulate press coverage when it was released.

The same thing might be happening here. The MOU leaked to the press now would constitute a total surrender…hard to believe it is the real deal in the works. The VP all but confirmed the $300 billion investment fund. And $100 billion in unfrozen assets…for nothing on the nuclear, missile or proxy issues.

Still - the leaked MOU would be better than having the strait closed through the summer. The vital national interest here is economic.

But wow…what a disastrous war.


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Thread Level: 2

At least 3 versions of MOU now. Better wait until Friday to see the one signed by both sides.

Author: Eli  (9645 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:31 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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With saying that, I believe there will be a fund, in some form, but definitely NOT from US, .i.e. US taxpayers. You can trust Trump for this. He won’t let US taxpayers pay a penny. Most likely the fund is from GCC. Also, the strait will be toll free, but Iran(with Oman) may charge some kind of fee. That’s what I believe.

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Down road, it'll be in the interests of neighboring Arab countries to rebuild them if good behavior

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63310 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 3:20 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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is observed.

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That’s the point from Trump which IMO is a hint: This MOU is crafted in a vague fashion -all are TBD

Author: Eli  (9645 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:20 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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It will a very unique agreement if so.

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Define “good behavior.”

Author: Domer From Hell  (18340 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:52 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Do you expect Iran to, all of the sudden, not be a state sponsor of terror?

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 3

Your statement “you can trust trump…” is offensive and naive.

Author: jimbasil  (54665 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 2:45 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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I agree and would extend your sentiment to all politicians

Author: Curly1918  (17968 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 3:53 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Thread Level: 4

“You can trust Trump for this”. Want a bet? Or just shut up.

Author: Eli  (9645 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:00 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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You’re actually doubling down on trust in trump are you? It’s not that you had any credibility

Author: jimbasil  (54665 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 3:48 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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it’s that this solidifies your lack of credibility in stone.

Yes, you’re not naive, you’re just ….!


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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There will be no fund from US taxpayers to Iran. If you don’t believe it, make a bet, coward. No BS.

Author: Eli  (9645 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:26 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Was there any US money given to Iran under the JCPOA?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7619 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 5:17 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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The 300B fund is fake news by MSM trying to scuttle the deal. Trump just emphatically denied it

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63310 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:51 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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I predicted the Dem MSM would do this.

At some point, you have to be able to see the pattern for yourself.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/iran-war-news-trump-deal-strait-hormuz-oil-prices-june-17

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Maybe it is a leaked falsehood, as I said

Author: Chris94  (38883 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:12 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Maybe it is an attempt to manage expectations. But Vance seemed to confirm it.

The media did not make it up. That much I can assure you.

We can probably agree that it would be an eye-popping capitulation, if true.

EDIT: note that Trump said we “would not be investing 10 cents.” That’s not the proposed fund. No US funds would be involved.


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Btw, it wasn't a "leaked" falsehood, it was a created falsehood from the MSM. You even try to blame

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63310 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 3:22 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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your own sides lies on Trump and his Adm.

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See below - Trump just confirmed it. Ha!

Author: Chris94  (38883 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:46 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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You need to actually read my link. From Trump just now on that very question....

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63310 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:25 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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"Doocy asked Trump if he was asking Gulf countries to invest in any such fund. The president replied, "No, I'm not."
"If they do it, fine. But I would say they won't be doing it for a while until they find out the behavior. It's a behavior thing, but we are not investing. That's a false story that got picked up incorrectly," Trump said."

Let me translate for you:
The US won't be putting anything at all financially into Iran. Arab allies are not being asked to do so either. It is in the interest of Arab allies to have a stable, well-behaved iran, and so they could decide on their own to invest in Iran, but they certainly would not be doing so until they see reassurances of good behavior down the road - but again, that is up to them. The Us does not get in the way of other allied countries decisions.


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By now, you may have noticed that you can’t always trust what he says

Author: Chris94  (38883 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:07 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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And since you certainly can’t trust what Iran says, we have to wait.

But, like I said, Vance essentially confirmed it.

We shall see. Maybe on Friday. Maybe not.


Thread Level: 6

No. YOU won't trust what he says cuz you have TDS. But now you admit you can't rust Iran, Mr JCPOA?!

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63310 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 3:16 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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And as we know, the IAEA was never able to certify that Iran was in compliance because they were yanking their chain as well.

The reason that it looks to you like Trump was making stuff up in previous deals is because the Iranians kept lying and reneging. They are trying to buy time because they know that their unofficial allies, the Democrat Party, is working to undermine all Trump efforts from within his own country.

These are the people to whom you released pallets of cash, and then blithely went along as the IAEA continued to be unable to verify all expectations.


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Trump just confirmed the $300 billion fund.

Author: Chris94  (38883 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:45 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Also he just confirmed we will be unfreezing Iranian assets. So add another $100 billion.

So you were wrong.

Also, I said you can’t trust what Iran says. But you can monitor what Iran does.

As usual, there is really no point in trying to discuss things with you.


Thread Level: 5

Because trump and FOXTV never tell falsehoods or deliver misinformation.

Author: jimbasil  (54665 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 1:46 pm on Jun 17, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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