The whole Reflecting pool saga and watching Trump come up with all sorts of grandiose lies to disprove how deficient he is as a leader got me thinking. What kind of person allows themself to be led by the nose by a pathological liar?

The biggest and I feel most accurate reason is confirmation bias. A rationale person who hears something so outlandish will give pause and say "that sounds like utter BS", but if you're of like mind or having similar opinions and someone confirms what you think, you'll eat that shit up.

This my friends is the biggest difference between the political parties in the last 15 years and why I'm so disappointed in MAGA or MAGA-adjacent voters. Until we start from the same set of facts, this country will never prosper the way our founders envisioned.

p.s. If you're first go to is "look in the mirror" or "both sides" do it, please just find your acceptance...

It is kind of revealing of your nature to phrase the question that way.

to put words in other people's mouths, Ned.

btw, here's more evidence of Trump's Pathology (see attached video of "Suspected Vandal" trashing the Reflecting Pool)...if you're buying this, line up a Conservator.

watching.

First of all, your starting point in the pool saga is he's lying. That's your default position on everything MAGA / DJT. Then you work yourself out from there. I don't know what happened and neither do you.

is the problem I'm talking about. I don't need to counter something that hasn't been proven yet. Such backwards thinking.

You've already countered something that hasn't been proven just by default. It's a MAGA lie! No facts. No proof. It's a lie. How do we know that you and your fellow P hats aren't lying? . No one knows anything about it and the only angst is coming from the Dem left. Now, let's talk about all the Black owned contractors that were stiffed by Obama. That's where your angst should be directed. Regular guys aren't getting paid. They have to meet family obligations. Can you pull some strings and get these contractors paid?

back up his claim...he hasn't done that...and his premise has as many hoes in it as the Reflecting Pool's liner...

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It's only the outer edges, the true believers, that think their politicians are truthful. Which are you?

gift we have been given is the ability to think for ourselves and I don't take it for granted.

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If you have receipts to counter, I'd love to see them. Also, remember the biggest difference between being pathological and embellishment is intent.

A pathological liar (also known as pseudologia fantastica or mythomania) is someone who exhibits a chronic, compulsive pattern of extreme lying. Unlike most people who lie for specific personal gain or to avoid consequences, pathological liars often fabricate elaborate stories for no apparent reason, even when the truth would better serve them.

Sound like anyone you've voted for?

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time...and never admits it or apologizes. Note that Joe Biden admitted to occasionally not telling the truth and apologized...add to that, a Malignant Narcissist (DJT) has zero empathy for anyone else and will use lies to harm others...JB has an exceptionally HIGH level of empathy...ergo, he's not in the same universe as Trump.

Trump is the worst possible choice for the nation's role as #1 Public Servant.

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From ChatGPT.

Here are documented false or misleading Biden claims, from fact-checkers—not a claim about intent.

Economy / taxes

Inflation “was 9% when I came to office.” False.
Billionaires pay an average 8% or 8.2% tax rate. Misleading/false framing because it uses unrealized gains as income.
Biden created “2.2 million” jobs in his last year. Inflated.
The economy had “record growth” under Biden. Not supported by BEA data.
Gas was “over $5 when I took office.” False.

Personal history / biography
6. Said he “got arrested” protesting for desegregation. False.
7. Said he stood at Ground Zero “the next day” after 9/11. False.
8. Said he gave his uncle a Purple Heart as vice president. False.
9. Said he had been to Afghanistan/Iraq twice as president. False.

Policy / government
10. “The Equal Rights Amendment has become part of our Constitution.” False.
11. Classified documents: “none of it was high classified.” False.
12. Student loan forgiveness “passed… by a vote or two.” False.
13. “I’ve already” declared a national climate emergency. False.
14. “There was no vaccine available” when he took office. False.

Guns / crime
15. Gun manufacturers are “the only industry” immune from lawsuits. False.
16. “You couldn’t buy a cannon” when the Second Amendment passed. False.
17. “More cops are killed responding to domestic violence calls than anything else.” False.

Foreign policy / world affairs
18. “China has more retired than working.” False.
19. “Democracies have become stronger… autocracies weaker.” Rated false by PolitiFact.
20. Claimed plans to build a railroad “from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean.” False/nonsensical as stated.


Link: https://youtu.be/mCJMF7mflGE?si=49kOEyK9U4FNHxh6

Biden was just a dumbass and a constant liar who was getting worse as he was diminished by aging.

Trump is a narcissist and will lie about achievements or to embellish them as well as when he feels himself under the slightest attack. He holds a grudge and will continue attacking even when wholly inappropriate to do so.

Politicians have always been liars...though I now miss the world where they were at least considerably more artful.

election was 'Stolen", when his AG, Campaign Manager, WH Counsel and 60+ Judges said it wasn't...so he then gets his sycophants to stage an Insurrection on 1/6/2021.

Then there's DJT's lie that COVID-19 was no worse than the Flu and would go away when Summer arrived...after having been advised of the disease' lethality back in January of 2021...thus causing thousands of believers their lives for not taking precautions (Masking/Social Distancing)

Biden never did anything as egregious as Trump has...consistently.

You can nit pick all you want, but JB never harmed the citizens of this country...in case you didn't know it, there is a difference here.

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...to the mix.

You're welcome...a second time.

This is the power of the "Whatabout"!

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Trump good. Liberals bad!

You said as much to defend Biden when he was lying. Surely you aren't changing your position now.

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And I enjoy all the whatabouts on this thread. As if there has ever been anything like Trump.

But they have to sleep at night, so….they all lie!!!

pathologically lying to their face. Then again cognitive dissonance can be a bitch!

You've told us many times that it is a binary choice, so it follows that people vote for what they consider to be the best (or least worst) of the two choices.

Also, you vote for liars in every election.

zero sum game no matter how much you try to make it.

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