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Strip out proof of citizenship and other BS and make it strictly voter ID

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 9:02 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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That should garner consensus for a voter bill, right?

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Thread Level: 2

Why shouldn't proof of citizenship be required? Why have a requirement but not verify it?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 11:23 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Let's not work backwards, why should it be required?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 12:10 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Because it is a requirement to vote. Your turn: Why do you think we should check voter ID's

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 12:15 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Again for the slow learners, you attest you're a citizen when you register. If you're not you get

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 12:17 am on Jul 14, 2026
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caught. Why is it so hard to understand?

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Again: You proposed checking voter IDs. Why did you propose that?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:08 am on Jul 14, 2026
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The SAVE act requires proof of citizenship when you register. You just want someone to "attest."

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:52 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Do you just take it for granted that no one would lie?

How would the State verify they are telling the truth? One way is to have the voter provide proof. How do you propose the States verify that the "attestation" is truthful?


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Lie you get caught. It really is that simple.

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 1:55 am on Jul 14, 2026
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So, you don't know. Or, you want a system you where you can pick who votes.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:53 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You want non-citizens to vote in our elections ?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:17 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Non-citizens do not vote in our elections. Use common sense for five seconds.

Author: Chris94  (38975 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:45 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Illegal aliens try to keep a low profile, for obvious reasons. They are not going to try to vote - with a very low percentage of success - and risk being caught and deported.

Illegals do not vote. Common sense.


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Common sense says to eliminate it as an issue.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:54 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Doing so would kick millions off the voting rolls. By design.

Author: Chris94  (38975 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:02 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Not everyone has a passport or birth certificate.

Millions of women do not have the same name they were born with.

This bill is designed to decrease the number of people who can vote. That's it. It is a voter suppression bill, and everyone in Washington knows it.


Thread Level: 6

Cheeks and Ned are not deep thinkers…by choice…

Author: TyroneIrish  (25034 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:24 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Link: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/13/g-s1-59684/save-act-married-women-vote-rights-explained

Thread Level: 7

Caveman thinkers and Neanderthals don't like facts either. Grunt illegals vote, grunt some more

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:31 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Great, let's help citizens who don't have a birth certificate get one. 2 birds, one stone

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:13 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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It's not hard. And, its free.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47048 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 11:21 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yeah, but what about people who don't want a birth certificate?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:23 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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According to Chris there are millions of people who don't have a birth certificate, but they vote. It's common sense, ya know.

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So you all of a sudden believe that non-citizens were vote in our elections?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 9:28 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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State wide and federal

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Even if it's never happened, and it has, you need to future proof policies.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:37 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Cheeks with the Thomas Massie, "I heard you like gay porn?" prove me wrong theory

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 9:46 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Are you on drugs?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:02 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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You want a law to prevent the extreme, extreme rare case that impacts the good more than the bad

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:21 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Please make it make sense?

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I don't know how extreme it is and neither do you, I just want to end the partisan argument.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:25 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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And it is easy to do.

Thread Level: 9

Let's see if we can agree here. When we hear about voter fraud it's because it's caught, correct?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:32 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Ergo, if it's done at a low frequency and it's caught, then massive voter fraud would've be like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thread Level: 10

The only way to know is with data.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:43 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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One of my customers, a dairy that processed raw milk, brought me in to solve their mystery of low cream yields. I determined, utilizing data, that during the pasteurization and separation process the homogenizer would over pressurize the cream line causing the cream to go to the drain. I tuned the PID loop and added an alarm that automatically shut down the system on overpressure. Saved them millions of dollars

The moral of the story is that data matters. You don't have any real, actual, verifiable data on voting and neither do I. But you don't want the data.


Thread Level: 11

The cream always rises to the top. Geez…some people’s jobs are so easy…

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35454 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:37 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Actually we do. Volunteer to work at a polling place.

Author: conorlarkin  (22884 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:29 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Ask folks who have done do for 20-30 years.

You cling to conspiracy theories like shit on stink.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 10

How do you verify their eligibility to vote?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:31 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Thread Level: 11

Volunteer. Every state has protocols.

Author: conorlarkin  (22884 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:41 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Voting is not meant to be an obstacle course …. unless the party in power fears losing in a free and fair election.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 12

You are a self-appointed expert with experience, just answer the question.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:46 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Are you familiar with the voting legislation offered by Democrats?

Author: conorlarkin  (22884 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:51 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/freedom-vote-act

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 14

Why won't you answer the question? Fear of prosecution?!?!

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:52 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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I did. Pick a state. For example …..

Author: conorlarkin  (22884 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:59 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Link: https://www.logancountyco.gov/DocumentCenter/View/875/How-Colorado-Keeps-Voter-Rolls-Accurate

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 16

You brought up your experience tell me how you do it.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:06 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Thread Level: 13

In FL you can go to your local SOE office or DMV. Obviously you have to provide the req'd docs.

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:47 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Did you navigate this treacherous and burdensome labyrinth on your own?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:50 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Seriously, you did it. Who are the people who can't do these simple things that you are advocating for?

Thread Level: 11

I truly don't want to be an asshat in my response, please add specifics because it's not that

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:36 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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difficult. BTW, I recently moved and when I changed my mailing address my local supervisor of elections sent me mail to register my new address. My Thomas Massie comment above is harsh, but all of you who entertain this idea say some conspiracy theory and make the sane prove you wrong.

Thread Level: 12

How did you register to vote in the first place? What is required to verify eligibility?

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:47 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Ok - I see what you're doing. You feel voting should be more difficult, got it. No more need to go

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 12:04 am on Jul 14, 2026
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back and forth.

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Thread Level: 14

Actually I want it to be easier to vote, I think we should do it online.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30002 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:16 am on Jul 14, 2026
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=282588

Thread Level: 7

That's just his dizzying intellect

Author: irish93  (1999 Posts - Joined: Nov 2, 2009)
Posted at 10:27 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Illegals have voted in our elections.

Author: ELP  (11689 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)
Posted at 10:58 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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@ what volume? Did they get away with it?

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 11:24 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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"Non citizens do not vote in our elections". That's a quote from your BFF.

Author: ELP  (11689 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)
Posted at 11:53 pm on Jul 13, 2026
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Though blue state voting rolls are suspicious at best, so far, illegals indicted are somewhat rare, but it happens Before you start your victory lap, even one single illegal vote cancels out a legal registered vote. It just might be yours.

Link: https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/aliens-charged-illegally-voting-federal-election-and-making-false-statements-while

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Thread Level: 11

I'm confused, these men were caught yes or no? This was an open/shut slam dunk situation.

Author: Quest4twelve  (7809 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 12:08 am on Jul 14, 2026
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