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Ground zero for the Dem split is in Michigan. It's as ugly as it can get under the big tent.

Author: Curly1918  (18113 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 12:42 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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We WERE a centrist capitalist melting pot... but those days appear to be gone... at least in the Democrat party.

I was a moderate JFK Democrat for most of my life,

I don't recognize the party today.


Link: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-michigan-democratic-primary-has-grown-absolutely-toxic

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If you look at Abdul's supporters, you can see the strategy that they must follow to win...

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63658 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 11:10 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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they are all the white silver ponytails, white students, and of course Arabs in Dearborn.

The Dems are going to split their minority vote significantly. It's not that the African American vote will turn to Republican Rogers, they simply will not turn out.

And THAT is why the mail in votes, especially with no Voter ID laws are so important to communist Dems as a whole across the country. They hope to collect those ballots for the disenchanted and vote FOR them.


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Dems are a hot mess, but they seem to have forsaken their traditional base. Kinda crazy.

Author: LanceManion  (10272 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)
Posted at 1:32 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Stay tuned.

Author: conorlarkin  (22929 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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Excerpts:

There are politicians who traffic in impassioned oratory or contagious fervor or ingenious catchphrases. Then there’s Roy Cooper, the Democratic nominee in the crucial U.S. Senate contest in North Carolina. His campaign slogan is so prosaic, so blunt, so gruff that every time I see it, I do a double take, wondering if it’s some parody or I’m hallucinating.

Make Stuff Cost Less. That’s it. He even calls his campaign schedule the Make Stuff Cost Less tour, as if he’s Bon Jovi or Bad Bunny, poised to perform his greatest hits. Except he’s going to talk about, you know, stuff. And making it cost less. Because who’s not in favor of that?

I actually love what Cooper, a former two-term governor of North Carolina, is doing. And I love that while there was or still is so much Democratic drama in Maine and Michigan and Texas and other states with midterm races on which control of the Senate hinges, we here in purple, swing-y, all-important North Carolina are shuffling through a relative snoozefest. No big scandals. No six genders. No visits from Hasan Piker. Just an unquestionably decent, deeply familiar Democratic nominee with a folksy affect, a focused message and, maybe, a lesson about the effectiveness of politicians who don’t fashion themselves as revolutionaries, don’t dance along the culture’s fault lines and don’t have any big surprises in store.

Already, Democrats are painting Whatley as a slick plutocrat utterly beholden to Trump, whose support is indeed the main force propelling Whatley’s candidacy. Meantime, Republicans are selectively alluding to various measures and developments during Cooper’s years as governor to charge him with being soft on crime, a reflexive accusation hurled at almost every Democrat. It doesn’t quite square with Cooper’s moderate record and centrist image.

By nature and by design, he isn’t an easy target — he’s so assiduously affable, so determinedly reasonable, so emphatically low-key, to coin an oxymoron. He grew up working on a North Carolina farm, which he mentions more than a little. The first of three campaign ads that he has released so far begins with images of those bucolic acres. “Mom was a teacher, Dad a small-town lawyer and farmer,” Cooper says as black-and-white pictures of his parents from the olden days flash on the screen. “Fridays were football. Sunday was church.” That’s from the ad’s first 10 seconds. In the remaining 20, Cooper mentions insurance rates and other working-class worries, but not, say, ICE raids or the Iran war.

I listened to two Make Stuff Cost Less speeches that he gave over the past week and a half. In neither did he utter Trump’s name. He did refer to the “chaos and horror” in Washington and accused Whatley of being poised to do “whatever this president tells him to do and say, regardless of whether it’s good for the people of North Carolina.” But Cooper quickly pivoted from that dig to a vow to “work with this president when I can,” adding: “I’m going to put the people before power, the people before party, the people before politics.”

Such alliteration is about as fancy and sexy as any of Cooper’s remarks. He indulges in a favorite refrain that falls groaningly short of being a rallying cry: “For so many North Carolina families, there’s just too much month at the end of the money.”

The policy section of the Cooper campaign’s website is devoted entirely to dozens of measures that he proposes for bringing down prices. He wants to repeal many tariffs, strengthen enforcement of antitrust laws, ban algorithmic grocery pricing. The list goes on and on, and above it, in large type, hover four words you’ll never guess: Make Stuff Cost Less.

“Democrats should spend more time asking themselves what a guy like Roy Cooper — currently poll-mogging his Republican opponent in North Carolina — is doing right than marveling at D.S.A. candidates in extremely blue districts,” Sarah Longwell, the publisher of The Bulwark, wrote in a column early this month.

Amen. And what Cooper is doing is keeping his head down, his words measured and his message simple. In a battleground state in a bonkers era, that’s the right stuff.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/20/opinion/roy-cooper-senate-election.html

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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I’d relish a bona fide centrist regardless of stripes.

Author: LanceManion  (10272 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)
Posted at 9:33 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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As I've been saying, the center is wide open for the taking.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30052 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:17 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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I don't know anything about Cooper, but that sounds positive. The key question he'll have to answer is HOW to make stuff cheaper.

I'm supporting Rob Sand in Iowa.

Fetterman is one of the best senators we have.

All of these will be/have been attacked by your growing lunatic fringe. And the duopoly is still the biggest problem we face.


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My sense is "the center" is changing. It is why "socialists" are gaining traction.

Author: conorlarkin  (22929 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:28 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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The Bernie Sanders platform re wealth disparity is attracting a larger audience.

Economics -- how much does stuff cost? -- are there two sets of rules: one for the wealthy, another for everyone else?

We'll see. The pendulum is swinging.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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I've said the AI revolution will require more socialism.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30052 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:54 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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If you recall, I was the lone Andrew Yang, UBI proponent back in 2020. Yang left the party.

But the lunatics are not the answer. Mamdani just the other day defined working class as anyone making less than $1M a year and is considering arresting Netanyahu. And then you have the CRAZY ideas to abolish police, prisons, borders, the Supreme Court and Senate.


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Mamdani is a smiling assassin...

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35498 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:32 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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...and NYC is getting whacked.

(Dude smiles more than The Joker.)

Edit: And expect DSA shills to tell you he "balanced" the budget...


Link: Mamdani 'Balanced' New York City's Budget—With a Bailout From Albany

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He is clearly a poser, adept at avoiding questions and reciting talking points.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30052 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:50 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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You'll get the "don't believe your lyin' eyes" post, of course...but trust your eyes. He is EXACTLY

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35498 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:48 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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...what your gut is telling you that he is.

Proven more so by how our closeted Marxist is compelled to run cover for him...from San Jose.


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Not confident enough to reply to my post, Knute?...Your "Gut" is filled with unsupported

Author: TyroneIrish  (25143 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 8:01 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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conspiracy theories...not actual performance...which btw, has thus far been successful and reasonable.

As a New Yorker, you owe it to yourself to watch the entire video and take time to think about what Mamdani said...and what he did. None of it complies with your pre-conceived opinion...e.g. he cites the financial challenges of even those NYC residents making $350K/yr...so the $1M/yr 'threshold' is not cast in stone...just a starting place for more discussion on tax policy.

I can see why a Republican right now is grab bagging for something...anything...to distract from the rolling disaster that is Trump and 'Trumpism' that no one can defend.


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In case you peek once in awhile...Mayor Mamdani took on hardball questions and answered them fully.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25143 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:55 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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You and others are just making up unsupported arguments.

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Here's what's actually gong on in NYC...Mayor Mamdani achieved a balanced 2027 budget

Author: TyroneIrish  (25143 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:30 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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through negotiation and compromise...the only 'Wackos' are those who refuse to open their eyes to reality...and that's certainly not the NYC Mayor...

Perhaps you prefer the mood of our scowling, angry and vindictive President.


Link: https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/05/mayor-zohran-mamdani-releases--124-7-billion-executive-budget-fo

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Not true

Author: irish93  (2001 Posts - Joined: Nov 2, 2009)
Posted at 7:54 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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It’s the law, he has no choice. All expenses need to have verified

Author: TyroneIrish  (25143 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 12:20 am on Jul 21, 2026
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Sources.

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When the left starts losing people like Bill Maher, they may be in trouble.

Author: TampaIrish  (12604 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:27 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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I know we are told (repeatedly) by people who have the talking points but they are nothing but sheep. You labeled it best with Blue MAGA. We have lots of them on this board.

They have gone well past being liberal and think it’s ok.


Link: https://x.com/redwavepress/status/2078993306483032307?s=61

I hold the record for most deleted posts. +133. Certain posters must be protected!
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When Trump loses former supporters like MTG, you know the MAGA crowd is in trouble...just look at

Author: TyroneIrish  (25143 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:37 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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all the national polls...deeply underwater, and getting lower.

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Staying tethered within sight of the center was a key component of American exceptionalism...

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35498 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:24 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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If the rise of Party over Country continues, the end will soon follow...

(Also...the acceptance of octogenarian leaders has GOT to stop.)


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Yep.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30052 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:55 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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People in glass houses...

Author: Quest4twelve  (7884 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)
Posted at 1:22 pm on Jul 20, 2026
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