Except when it is accidently disvovered because the fraudster shoots a bunch of people. Or when 8 or 9 hundred illegal aliens scheduled for deportation are "accidently" awarded citizenship instead. Or when the government rushes to make hundreds of thousands of immigrants citizens just in time for them to vote for Democrats.
Link: http://www.king5.com/news/local/investigators-may-probe-cascade-mall-suspects-citizenship-status-voting-record/327490798
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all you have to do is get a drivers license and you are automatically registered to vote.
Remember what the court ruled. Anyone can vote as long as they are registered to vote.
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Link: California voter requirements
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/dmv-698896-licenses-undocumented.html
Presumably this guy could have gotten a driver's license, no?
No one says there is no voter fraud; what they say is that there is almost no voter fraud of the kid that would be helped by Voter ID laws (in-person fraud). See below.
Link: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/person-voting-fraud-rare-doesnt-affect-elections/
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You can't go to a pharmacy, a government building, drive a car, cash a check, get a cell phone plan, or get any type of benefits without a photo ID. You can't even get into Costco without one.
You want SS or SSI, you need one to get into the Fed Bldg. The argument is ridiculous.
The GOP wants voter ID laws because they know they depress turnout among primarily Democratic populations. Democrats oppose them because they know it too.
It is a political calculation for which both sides have constructed principled defenses. But it boils down to politics.
Voter ID laws would depress turnout in - for example - Philadelphia. And since Democrats need a big turnout in Philly to win PA, the positions of both sides are predictable.
Don't take my word for it; here is PA House Republican Leader Mike Turzai on June 23, 2012:
How does requiring something that everyone needs cause legitimate voters not to vote?
Your view on this - which you think is so principled - would change 180 degrees if black people started voting Republican. It would take time. But you would find yourself believing that including the greatest number of people in the process is something to be valued, and voter ID laws are inherently racist.
Your principles have been shaped by your politics.
needs to go through life cause legitimate voters not to vote?
I agree that R's think it does, or that it gives an advantage and that the D's in essence agree.
But seriously, tell me how or why it does? It makes no sense.
It makes no less sense to me to require a voter to prove who they are than it does a person entering a federal building. They are going to search you so you can't bring weapons in. Why does one need photo ID to enter a building owned by the public? Believe me you do.
I support voter ID. But unlike GOP politicians, my intent is to have an election system with integrity. Their intent is to reduce the number of people who vote because high turnout almost invariably hurts GOP candidates. Registering to vote and obtaining an ID should be easy, not like a trip to the DMV. We could have stations at most polling places where IDs could be generated. When I say this, the alleged supporters of "integrity in the system" revert back to their claim that obtaining an ID should involve having to jump through hoops because, by God, if I have to spend two and a half hours at the DMV to renew my license, they can do the same to get an ID to vote. Or to deal with the SS system. That's nothing but smooth sailing, isn't it? Isn't that brilliant? They're full of crap and they know it. This is why beady-eyed, limp-dicks like Scotty and Rick Scott couple voter ID with things like reducing hours to vote and cutting down the absentee voting window. It's part of a larger effort to reduce the pool of voters. It shouldn't be difficult to vote and it shouldn't involve having to go through some separate system to authenticate yourself to vote.
Here's an idea: make it easier to be good. That includes performing your civic duties, like voting. You'll be shocked at how much less opposition you'll face when you make good-faith efforts to get people authenticated rather than supporting guys who aren't fooling anyone but the useful idiots who probably really do believe that this is simply an effort to keep ACORN Part II from stealing another election from them.
Some people are very old and don't drive. They shouldn't vote, I guess.
That figure is infinitesimally small.
They even have photo ID's in the nursing homes.
If everybody had an ID, this would not be an issue. But not everybody does.
And there is virtually no in-person voter fraud. So that is not the issue. And everyone in leadership on both sides knows it.
get treated.
I asked why and was told so someone else can't use the insurance card.
In fact about the only important activity that doesn't require one is voting.
People born in other countries who aren't yet nationalized are the only people in this country without one.