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So if one is not religious… what is the basis for morals?

Author: Curly1918 (16432 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:43 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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I was raised Catholic and this was never an issue back in those halcyon days. Now I have to rely on my feelings. Some are the residue of my former faith but most are dependent on my capacity for empathy. This has grown as I’ve matured so that I’m am anti war and anti death penalty. I am also anti abortion after viability… but not for first term fetuses.

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Love, compassion, kindness, selflessness are proof of God's existence.

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 am on Sep 3, 2021
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I don't believe that morality is all about how we are raised or taught. Nor do I believe that the human animal (w/ our developed brains) is inherently loving, kind, compassionate, and unselfish.

It comes for a higher power. Deep inside of us, there is a sanctuary of peace and a rocket ship of strength and fearlessness, I believe that is where God exists.

It maybe that in our most raw and vulnerable moments that we are closest to God. There is a reason why a good cry begins our healing.

But, if we look closely, God is all about in our day to day journey. Why is that we have a good feeling inside us, when we help a stranger or exchange smiles with someone in need?


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Basic empathy is part of human nature, it seems to me

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:16 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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People without religion can have a moral code too.

For me, the philosophy of Jesus is great, irrespective of the divine stuff.


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Childhood trauma inhibits empathy development.

Author: Curly1918 (16432 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:10 am on Sep 3, 2021
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Narcissists have very little and most of our “leaders” suffer from this personality disorder. Their moral code is all self serving.

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Jesus was not a philosopher. He was the Son of God.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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He believed in organized religion. He was the Founder of The Catholic Church. He cannot be separated from the Divine. The Blessed Sacrament calls us to worship with our fellow
Catholics. That is his ongoing gift.


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But He had a philosophy. Obviously.

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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Your comment is ridiculous.

Author: (unknown user)(User Info Not Available)

Posted at 12:04 am on Sep 3, 2021
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“And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” Matthew 28:18-20*.

This is not the words of a great philosopher. This man is either a complete lunatic or the Son of God. It’s either or.


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Exactly. The golden rule sums it up. Knowing it isn’t that hard. Living up to it is.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:20 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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It's nice for humans to make up their own rules. To follow Scripture that they have written........

Author: ELP (9548 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:03 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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Many many humans believe they are their own gods and therefore have the ability to decide what is moral and what is not. Of course, it's all subject to change.

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Sam Harris talks about this often and discusses it in several of his books.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:03 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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Link: https://samharris.org/the-myth-of-secular-moral-chaos/

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He does...highly unpersuasively.

Author: MAS (21444 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:10 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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I'm just trying to get past his assertion that the Nazi crematoria were direct descendants of medieval Christians. Bizarre.

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He can be over the top at times.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:25 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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I think the best argument against Sam's perspective is that science, blindly followed, is no better as a dogma and in some cases worse. But I do agree with him that religion is not a necessary component to morality.

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Biden lies about visiting Tree of Life synagogue,more dementia on display,not religious Biden

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 5:46 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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White House Press Secr got a little testy today when questioned about Biden 's stance on abortion,

Author: cubsfanin16 (5498 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 7:44 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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And his "supposed" religious position...Hmmmmm , wonder why?

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Here is the link.Sad that Biden lying doesn’t even register anymore, but after Afghanistan….

Author: BaronVonZemo (59839 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:40 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tree-life-synagogue-disputes-biden-claim-visited-massacre

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Baron,it is beyond category the lies Biden delivers and his not being called on it

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 7:59 pm on Sep 2, 2021
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