Remember when Baron et al. used to call Obama "The Amateur"? Those were the days.
The amazing thing to me about this is either (1) no one around Trump knew not to do this, or (2) no one could convince him not to do this.
Either way, hopefully the Chinese will understand that we have just elected a man who has absolutely no idea what his is doing. No offense intended, Beijing! Right, boys?
From the article: “The Chinese leadership will see this as a highly provocative action, of historic proportions,” said Evan Medeiros, former Asia director at the White House national security council.
“Regardless if it was deliberate or accidental, this phone call will fundamentally change China’s perceptions of Trump’s strategic intentions for the negative. With this kind of move, Trump is setting a foundation of enduring mistrust and strategic competition for US-China relations.”
Link: https://www.ft.com/content/fd19907e-b8d4-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622d
Replies to: Remember when Baron et al. used to call Obama "The Amateur"? Those were the days.
Sounds like an excellent bargaining chip with an aggressive enemy.
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let's get it over with. he has said
during the campaign that the Chinese are not trustworthy. He gave the notice
now we shall see what comes of it. It is my guess that China folds.
They have too much to lose. Too much money invested in USA.
It will be an interesting situation to keep an eye on.
BTW
Obama was and still an amateur. By give the Chinese reins he has hurt the USA. But that's for another discussion.
DT does nothing by accident.
Obama's "American Idol" candidacy paved the way for Trump. What you don't see is astounding.
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So, I couldn't read your linked article. Now I find out that he just took a congratulatory call?
He didn't actually call the Taiwan president. I just didn't know that. Interesting.
Taiwan claims Trump arranged the call.
But in the end it doesn't matter. Off on the wrong foot with the chicoms.
Odd, because China is claiming that it was initiated by Taiwan-either they are telling the truth or
they are already showing a massive vulnerability on this issue that they would need to put out such a lie in order to save face.
Brilliant move if initiated by Trump, but I suspect it was the Taiwanese.
or the right foot--depends on how it turns out
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Well, what do you expect from a white supremecist who is going to round up the gays and cure them?
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it the words of your emperor, we might as well try something different.
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"Trump loves Taiwan" by We Fook Um Yung
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Trump's pilots to China have been identified.
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Playing Taiwan card (which was played by us before 1979) at right time. Another shrewd move by Trump
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China, Grappling With Trump, Turns to "Old Friend" Kissinger (meeting in Beijing yesterday)
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Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-02/china-grappling-with-trump-turns-to-old-friend-kissinger
We wouldn't want to go against any precedent set by a genius like Carter.
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And followed by Reagan.
But he hated walls so he sucked.
Thank you, sweet baby Jesus.
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He was a man! He had a beard!
Reagan...you can say this was amateurism, or bad diplomacy...but...
...it probably made the soviets think twice, even though it was just a joke.
Holy balls, he's been talking about building hotels in Taiwan.
We may all die over an over-priced buffet.
Nahhhh, we'd kick their ass in a nuclear war.
They don't have many ICBMs...certainly not enough to threaten Buffalo, anyway. So, rest easy.
More importantly, how do you think the conversation with Duterte went?
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They exchanged views on how to deal with their political oppositions. A warm conversation was had.
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China will be happier soon.
You know, when backing out of the TPP gifts the Pacific Rim to them economically.
A point that has been glossed over. Thanks Don.
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To be fair, none of the candidates would have signed TPP.
Except maybe Evan Mc-whats-his-name. Geez, I wrote the guy in and can barely remember his name now.
That's the point. They just pander.
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True. One more ridiculous Clinton pander.
No one understands the TPP, especially in Trump country. But it was a really good deal - almost all concessions were in part of other countries, like our insistence that Vietnam allow unions (to help OUR workers) - and now it's dead in the water.
and such strong enforcement of IP rights and the production of counterfeit goods
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Obama may have been an amateur but Don is the GREATEST amateur. Also quite loud about it.
Diplomacy is highly overrated anyway.
If the red gooks don't like it, Mad Dog will take care of them.
The important thing is AMERICA WILL BE GREAT AGAIN SOON!
your humor fails you
DT is no amateur
He is. But we've been incrementally getting here and then Obama threw open the door...
Scant political experience. No military experience. Media unwilling to vet properly because of family background.
Ended the unwritten rule against appearances on late night talk shows in order to appear hip and cool...
All of this greased the skids for the tweeting, crass, carnival barker Trump.
In many ways I have little sympathy
Geez. Next thing you know, he will invite the Dalai Lama to the White House.
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Again with the failed comparisons.
Taiwan is not Tibet.
Are you feigning ignorance? Or are you truly ignorant regarding the way they are the same?
They would be the same, if China had its way.
Meeting with their leaders is also the same, from China's point of view.
But you are right that one is a mountain nation, and one is an island...totally different geography, therefore no political analogies can be drawn. Is that it?
It is not the same, Ned. Not even close.
If you doubt this, you should read up about what happened when Newt invited the Taiwanese president to speak at his alma mater, Cornell, in 1996.
The Chinese do not react the same way regarding Tibet and Taiwan. Not even close.
It will be interesting to see how China reacts. Maybe they will roll out a ladder for AF1 next time
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Yup, they will respect his guts.
Or attack Taiwan dragging us into a war. Those are the two extremes I guess.
Depends. He may have given Taiwan another 20 years with the call.
Say what you want about China, but they take the long view.
They have only been pushing on the disputed islands with Japan, Philippines, Vietnam because they knew that Obama would do nothing. They don't know that Trump will do nothing. They will tread more carefully.
Or we will go to war. We'll see.
Taiwan is geopolitically more important to our commie friends I balee is his point.
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