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Fed docs show Fauci lied to Congress-he did specifically fund CHI coronavirus gain of fnctn research

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:23 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Fauci actually contributed NIH funds specifically to the development of coronavirus (Rand Paul specifically asked him about this specific contribution and he denied it. No wiggle room).

With Dems in charge, I don’t think Fauci could do anything to push Dems to remove him, but criminal charges ought to be filed somewhere so that this can be brought to full light at trial.

Fauci helped the Chinese do this to us. Now, the left ignores China, and expects vaccine doubters to be sold on the word of a liar.


Link: https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1435053515785662464%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Frand-paul-wuhan-documents-fauci-lied

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More background material for this faux 'tempest'...

Author: TyroneIrish (20694 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:23 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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But then, you didn't even read your own wiki posting that showed Dr. Ebright only suspects an accident at Wuhan...not a consciously planned 'attack' on anyone...so...I don't anticipate you reading this either...it's just for other possible observers.

Link: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/scicheck-fauci-and-paul-round-2/

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Nice try. I said he "is now calling him a liar also". He was not against Fauci to start.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Nice try. I said he "is now calling him a liar also". He was not against Fauci to start.

Further, I said “is now calling him a liar” because I fully expected zealots like you to otherwise jump at that.
Why would you think yourself clever for thinking you noticed something that was expected to be taken as a given?


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Did you read the link?...I'll cut and paste a key exchange for you...

Author: TyroneIrish (20694 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Here it is...

Author: TyroneIrish (20694 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:43 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Paul: It’s a dance, and you’re dancing around this because you’re trying to obscure responsibility for 4 million people dying around the world from a pandemic.

Fauci: I have to … well, now you’re getting into something. If the point that you are making is that the grant that was funded as a sub award from EcoHealth to Wuhan created SARS-CoV-2, that’s where you were getting. Let me finish. …

Paul: We don’t know if it didn’t come from the lab, but all the evidence is pointing that it came from the lab, and there will be responsibility for those who funded the lab, including yourself. …

Fauci: I totally resent the lie that you are now propagating, senator, because if you look at the viruses that were used in the experiments that were given in the annual reports that were published in the literature, it is molecularly impossible.

Paul: No one’s saying those viruses caused it. No one is … We’re saying they are gain-of-function viruses, because they were animal viruses that became more transmissible in human and you funded it. And you won’t admit the truth. …

Fauci: And you are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individual. I totally resent that.

Paul: It could have been. It could have been.

Fauci: And if anybody is lying here, senator it is you.

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Does the phrase "molecularly impossible" have any impact on you?...or are you hanging your hopes on Rand Paul's retort..."It could have been...It could have been"?


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Nope. Fauci is splitting hairs, but he was clearly collaborating with China on dangerous research &

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:28 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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He lied back in May. He is trying to get out of his denial later by using a different definition of the term gain of function research.

PS - I would never trust a Left wing fact check site for accurate quotes in context and in toto.
I recommend that you watch the testimony as I have from March, May, July, and this Fall.
Fauci knew what he was being asked, and he lied and is now trying to parse his way out like Bill Clinton.

We all see.


Link: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/faucis-hairsplitting/

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From Dr. Richard Ebright's Wikipedia bio (Section on COVID-19)...

Author: TyroneIrish (20694 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:04 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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"Ebright has stated that the genome and properties of SARS-CoV-2 provide no basis to conclude the virus was engineered as a bioweapon,[51][52] but he also has stated that the possibility that the virus entered humans through a laboratory accident cannot be dismissed[53][54][55][56][57] and has called for a thorough investigation of the origin of the pandemic and for measures to reduce the risk of future pandemics.["

Dr. Ebright is on record as objecting to the the creation of BSL-4 labs...they exist, so others obviously disagree with him...he is grinding his axe. Again, he is not claiming that China's Wuhan Lab "Did Anything to Us"...both he and Dr. Fauci agree that an accident at WIV could have happened...btw, accidents have happened at U.S. labs...it is, indeed, risky business...but the threats from new pathogens have been deemed serious enough to warrant such risk taking...by many successive Congressional reviews.

Right now, you've got the 'renowned' anti-Dr. Fauci Sen. Rand Paul, Dr, Ebright...and yourself...very nearly foaming at the mouth with eyes blazing in an attempt to besmirch Dr. Fauci...all because they wish that Congress didn't approve BSL-4 labs working on ways to defeat future pathogens....and perhaps because Donald Trump is 'super-pissed' at the man who Americans rightly turned to for guidance in dealing with a disease that Trump called "A Democratic Party Hoax"...a month after Dr. Fauci got a vaccine (Moderna's mRNA-1273) started in Phase 1 trials, and just 2 days after getting the gnome structure from China.

You are so...so....wrong when it comes to Dr. Fauci...but you have shown yourself to be impenetrable to arguments containing truthful data, so carry on...I just want other observers to see what's really going on.


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Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:57 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Fauci controls NIH funds?

Author: Chris94 (36800 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:15 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Your anger at our top epidemiologist is matched only by your stubborn refusal to find out what he actually does.

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NIAID Grants Chris. Don't try to deflect and be coy. He directs funds for NIH Inf Disease division

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:53 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Link: https://www.niaid.nih.gov/about/director

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You think he should be fired from whatever it is he does

Author: Chris94 (36800 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:47 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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You have shown repeatedly that you have no idea. Which amuses me.

Typical right-wing critic. Rage! At what, you aren’t sure.


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So are you saying that Fauci does not direct grant money from NIH Inf Disease department to research

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:01 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Chris, it is you who don't seem to know anything. i guess all of these other experts must ne wrong too. You're trying to parse words on which department and grants vs budgets. You know he lied.

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And this is the background of the person i linked who is now calling Fauci a liar also.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60161 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_H._Ebright

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Did you read this Bezos Post piece? He co-authored with NIH head on the Post to support GOF research

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:08 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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on Dec 2011. Then a few months later they two influenced the biosecurity board to change their decision on the research.

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It was in the BePo?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33507 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:10 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Sounds better than WaPo. Like it.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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The Pope is infallible. No masks/masks, no booster/yes booster. Get used to it.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:12 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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Fauci probably did not harass any women... so he's safe with the Dems.

Author: Curly1918 (16495 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:48 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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They also apparently hail Fauci as a hero because of the authoritarian power he has given them with

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Sep 7, 2021
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the virus

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