“Unless you are willing to be as unreasonable and as brutal, as your enemy, do not engage him in a conflict -- because he will win.”
· Master Sergeant Robert J. Cole USMC (ret)
He then went on, in answer to someone saying: `You can't bomb an ideology."
"The hell you can't, because we did it.
These Muslims are no different than the [Imperial] Japanese.
The Japs had their suicide bombers too, and we stopped them.
What it takes is the resolve and will to use a level of brutality and violence that your generations can't stomach.
And until you can, this shit won't stop. It took us onto the beaches with bullets, clearing out caves with flame throwers, and men like LeMay burning down their cities, killing people by the tens of thousands.
And then it took 2 atom bombs on top of it. Plus we had to bomb the crap out of German cities to get them to quit fighting.
But, if that was what it took to win, we were willing to do it.
Until you are willing to do the same - well I hope you enjoy this shit, because it ain't going to stop!
Back then, we had leadership, resolve, resources and determination.
But today we're afraid to hurt people's feelings - and we have to worry about which bathroom to pee in!"
instruct sympathizers in mayhem like ISIS does; 2. Japan didn't enter into WW II based on any religious convictions and religious hatred like ISIS; 3. Travel between the middle east and Europe was almost non existent and now it's common; 4. Japan didn't spread their ideology to other countries and start new look-alike organizations like ISIS has. The world has "shrunk" since WW II and the U.S. must adapt or become a second rate power like Russia.
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how about you? You will never learn. You're unteachable.
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We won it because our citizen soldiers, airmen, marines, and sailors were superb and willing to make sacrifice, and we had commanders who knew how to properly use them. They more than held their own against the professional armies of Germany and Japan. We also had an unmatched capacity to produce war material.
Sure we committed some atrocities and engaged in some barbarism. Given who and what we were fight that was inevitable. But that's not why we won, or who we were, which we proved again 3 years later with the Berlin airlift and Marshall Plan.
...the Wehrmacht. If Hitler had been able to invade the U.S. instead of Russia, we'd all be speaking German now.
The U.S. lost 400,000 in both theaters of war (less than 1% of the wars' casualties). American businesses made piles of money. Our "sacrifices" pale beside those of our allies.
The people back home all had good production jobs and had money in their pockets for the first time in 20 years. Americans of the war years who were not draftable remember those times fondly. For the most part, they had a great time.
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There would have been no way for his armies to gain a foothold on US soil - logistics and all that - and he didn't have that kind of support here in the US.
As to Russia - had he come here and not Russia, I wonder what would Russia be today?
that war against Hitler. Nonetheless they were invaded, we were not. I think you underestimate how we would have fought under those circumstances. In addition, they also signed a deal with Hitler to carve up Poland and give him a free hand in the West that allowed for that invasion. Finally, the opening of the second front in France saved a lot of Russian lives, and kept the entire continent from Stalins domination. No mean feat. Since my Dad was one of the millions that were draftable, it cost him three years of his life and a college scholarship. There was plenty of sacrifice on the part of that generation.
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But are we now going to attack each other with shadowy claims of perceived career failure? If he wrote a play, I applaud him for it, whether or not it was a commercial "success".
and I would NEVER divulge his personal information on this board. Talking shit about his career failure is another story. He can go fuck himself.
Luckily they are not running our military strategy. Yet.
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what would you have done?
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Bombs and Russian interevention did that. Otherwise they would have fought on.
Similarly, other than destroying the German cities, the strategic bombing study after the war showed that it did little to curb war production. It took millions of Russian soldiers to essentially end that one.
Barbarism didn't win that war although there was plenty of it on both sides.
It was the lunatic emperor that prolonged the war and forced us to drop the two A-bombs. The consensus among the Japanese military commanders was to sue for peace prior to the first atomic bomb being dropped. Also, Russia didn't get involved until they knew the Japs were done. America might dominated the pacific.
Imagine how productive Germany would have been without allied strategic bombing. Example...Germany was working on advanced military technology that NEVER made it to the battle field. Why? Because we destroyed their production and R&D facilities. Germany made the ultimate blunder by fighting a two front war. Invading Russia proved too costly, but D-Day was what saved countless lives. Imagine what Germany would have done without having to defend against an allied invasion in the west. The eastern front would have been a different story. Again, America won this theater too.
have still won the war just with significantly more casualties. The various strategic bombing analysis that I have read have all found it to have been marginal including the official Air Force study. I would have still done it and I don't apologize for it, but I'm skeptical of what it truly accomplished.
America clearly and decisively won the Pacific war, but not by torching Japanese cities. Again, I don't apologize for it and would have done it, but the consensus of military historians like Hastings again is that it was marginal in the end.
America's men and arms did much to win the war. Not through what its enemies were doing though. In other words, the war wasn't won by dehousing or incinerating civilians, although again there was plenty of it by the allies. That's the difference.
and my point was that the strategic bombing did enough to keep Germany and Japan from prolonging the war by producing more arms. "Marginal" effectiveness was enough in this situation.
The British area bombing and LeMays carpet bombing were more terror methods that were less effective.
Our air force to its credit at least in Europe and until the very end in the Pacific did try for precision bombing of legit targets.
fight.
and that's what DT is doing. For the first time we have someone that knows how to fight. You fight dirty (lie) we fight back dirtier.