Riddle me this bots. Trump AND his campaign (Flynn included) are clean as the newly driven snow of
collusion with Russia over the hacking (even though we know Russia did it to help elect Trump) AND Flynn floated the idea of sanctions removal before they were even in office without the knowledge of Trump and Pence and then lied about it, why did Trump go to such great lengths to risk his presidency to shut down any investigation and to protect Flynn? If it's not there on collusion by the campaign, Flynn lied, and Trump wasn't undermining Obama in December, why do what he did?
He's either a complete nut job crazy or he's hiding something.
Replies to: Riddle me this bots. Trump AND his campaign (Flynn included) are clean as the newly driven snow of
You are a changed man Frank
One that many no longer recognize
The irony is you calling anyone a BOT
You are a BOT in its truest sense....a one track mind that drones on while no one listens
I also see you have given up on the football team....sad
Obviously you read a lot of what I post.
And isn't this about your 4th or 5th post about how I'm a changed man?
You guys crack me up as you are all the same broken records about politics and CFB.
I could literally write each one of your posts. And it's been for years. The ultimate bots.
So excuse me if I say again I couldn't give two shits what you think.
And where have I given up on the football team? I'm just realistic about it. Like you use to claim to be.
Bot.
P.S. Feel free to try to address the points which you can't. In fact, none of you bots can.
You call it coverup, we call it fighting back. We can only riddle you why we fight back. It's 'cause
1. So-called collusion originated from HRC campaign, it's a part of political attack, we know that; 2. Flynn is a victim of witch hunt from previous regime on incoming admin members. Again, this is dirty politics. The witch hunt was initiated by previous admin's DOJ in the name of counterintelligence investigation. You can not have it both way: on one hand, you say your wiretapping on Trump team is counterintelligence in nature, it's for national security purpose, not targeting on your political opponents and for political purpose. On the other hand, you use this intercept information of counterintelligence to do political witch hunt on Flynn. Flynn didn't say, as you claimed, any sanction removal during his meeting with Russia ambassador. Even WaPo said in its report that "no any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit".
"The FBI in late December reviewed intercepts of communications between the Russian ambassador to the United States and retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn — national security adviser to then-President-elect Trump — but has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government, U.S. officials said.
The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.7c5f4ffbd937
Boo!
Sorry, man. I know you scare easily.
Just so I'm clear then, if/when Flynn flips and starts singing like a canary will he magically transform from victim to villain in your eyes?
Oh, I owe you one response, btw.
We strongly against Mueller widens its investigation (if he will). As comey said it clearly on 3/20 congress hearing, FBI's Russia investigation is a counterintelligence investigation. If Mueller strictly follows the task that Rosenstein assigned to him: Find "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" and "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation", I and other Trump supporters will definitely accept his investigation. Because we strongly believe nothing there. But if Mueller widens its investigation to something else that is deviation of original Russia collusion investigation, then his investigation is a politically motivated witch hunt. We strongly against it, and of course we won't accept anything from this witch hunt. Mark my words.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=339034
That's actually a pretty fair response. Thanks.
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Isn't liberal's flip/flop on Comey laughble enough? What you expected only happens on liberals.
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Comey, Comey, Comey, Comey, Comey Chameleons?
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What "great lengths" did he go to?
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2 private one on ones with the FBI director, meeting with Coates and Rogers, phone calls to the FBI
director, firing the FBI director, as well as regularly tweeting/commenting on it. And there are more but you get the idea.
Come on.
The worst allegation in Comey's own words is that Trump "hoped" Comey could get past the Flynn investigation because he knew that it was hogwash (not obstruction).
And even then, you are taking the word of a guy who has been caught lying under oath several times as well as the fact that he is a disgruntled employee with a grudge.
Comey is also under oath saying that Trump did not impede his investigation. So are the other Obama appointees at the IC agencies. Further, he is required by law to bring forward any instance where he feels inappropriate influence is being exerted on him on an investigation, and he never did so. Ergo, there was no untoward influence.
Also, Comey had multiple good reasons to be fired, and his leaking afterward confirms that it was a solid decision to do so. I would have fired the guy, and you would have too. You just can't see that because your TDS fever is raging too high right now.
Case closed.
And you don't think that is unusual to do for someone who has lied to your VP when there is no
underlying scandal?
You need to come on. You sound foolish and ridiculous.
If you refer to Flynn, he lied to try to keep his job. He got caught & fired.
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You sound like you're hoping Trump gets impeached...
as much as I don't like the guy, impeachment is the last thing I want to happen. It would be diasterous for America's economy.
you hit nail righ on the head
wishing is all they have
Dude, there is a spell check.
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Is there a dumb check?
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Not here.
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I definitely am
I think the damage he is likely to do in office outweighs any short-term problems that might come from impeaching him.
dreaming still
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Real dumb Trump toady
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So far none of your red scare premonitions have come to fruition.
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So far
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From the guy who postulated that Trump may be insane or demented. Sigh.
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Pay no attention to the men (and women) behind the curtain...
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I would have said the same about Obama one year in. But that still wouldn't justify impeachment.
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If he deserves it he should. That isn't the point though.The point is he is either covering up
a scandal, or as Cheeks put it so well is incompetent/insane.
There really is no other explanation.
fools rush in where wisemen fear to thread
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Awesome
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Why don't you post a thread that makes sense.
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Incompetence and insanity/dementia are both viable explanations.
It's like you didn't pay attention to the Donald during the campaign season.
Now with the others, anything is possible but I've yet to see a smoking gun. I am guessing some will go down for other crimes, such as financial, that the investigation didn't originally target. Treason and/or espionage are a stretch at this point.
There was no smoking gun in Watergate until the very end.
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Where did I say it was? It's not unusual though for
a smoking not to be present at the beginning of an investigation.
Far less unusual for a partisan witch hunt to be completely unfounded.
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Completely unfounded.....completely disagree. The FBI has pursued the collusion investigation
into the Trump term. They don't do that if completely unfounded. Unless you believe in the completely unlikely deep state BS. it's not completely unfounded. Whether there is sufficient evidence to indict remains to be seen.
Is collusion a crime?
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I thought we were talking in general terms.
Unless you think Watergate, unrelated but you brought it up, is some how a part of the conspiracy.
I know you want it to be true so bad that you can't think objectively. Have a good one man.
Uhm I was. It would be unusual for the FBI to pursue a completely unfounded investigation this far.
Sheesh.
It was a counter-intelligence investigation, not unusual at all.
Politics turned it into a special counsel criminal probe.
They pursue completely unfounded counter intelligence investigations of prez campaigns.
And to the bitter end when it's clear they are completely unfounded. Well done.
How long did email gate last?
How many indictments?
Situation normal...
So you think that was completely unfounded? You consistently conflate concepts.
Just because there wasn't evidence to indict, doesn't mean that the investigation was unfounded.
In that case it was more than founded to investigate how the SOS treated classified info.
Replace "unfounded" with "overblown".
For a guy that throws around terms like treason and espionage, you're awful picky on semantics.
Whatever you say. It's just words.
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So everything is watergate?
This type of thinking is the problem.
I'll say it again...Past is NOT prologue....Capice?
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You hope.
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Is that what you believe? I don't think he's that insane, but it is conceivable.
I listed it as the other option. Also, if he's that incompetent he shouldn't be prez, yes?
I never wanted him as president, would prefer Pence.
Also, I edited my post above a bit....
I think he's nuts and getting worse. But, he was duly elected and I respect the system. I won't join the witch hunt.
That's actually a worse alternative than a cover up.
At least a cover up has a rational basis.
If you are right he's not just a little crazy, he's batshit nuts.
I don't know, but I've read a few tweets...
Personally, I am glad Kushner and Ivanka are heavily involved. But still, we get the government we deserve...
Pot meet kettle.
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Trump toady.
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Crazy like a fox!
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Explain how that is a "foxy" move?
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Very hot. Very sexy.
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Do you really think that the campaign contacted the Russians
prior to the election and asked for help defeating Hillary in exchange for reducing sanctions? Nuts.
Look, you hate Trump. You supported Uranium Hillary. I get that you're upset she lost, but move on.
He does and they do.
TDS.
Trump toady.
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You are the worst stalker on this board. Isn't that like the only board rule there is? Don't stalk?
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Really Neddie? Who has your pal PA Irish been stalking. Read this thread and all of his posts.
Has he contributed a single independent thought other than denegrating other posters. Very sad and typical of the person.
You spew the same tripe 24/7...
And you bitch about original thought?
He is a changed person from who he used to be
Cut him a little slack
You like to hump my leg. Your game is so obvious. Run along Fido, Natasha is calling.
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A great refutation of my point...
Spew on.
Fish on loser.
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He's insane.
Very sad and pathetic.
Then stay away and run along. Your game is pathetic.
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Do you believe it's impossible?
None of this is going to come down to what people believe, of course, but what can be proven.
I hope we all can accept what they find. And by "we all" I mean you Trumpamaniacs....because I know I can.
Agree with the body of your post.
I will accept whatever the facts show, but I too will not join the witch hunt. The witch hunt is unbecoming, and leads to more embarrassment of the nation.
No moron. I think they already had Russian connections through Flynn and
Manafort. I think those prexisting connections exploited the ties and told them what they could do and then did it.
I think the connections thought Trump would lift sanctions and in fact they were taken out of the platform.
I think Flynn wanted to lift sanctions in December 2016 and that he was authorized to float the idea in a back channel.
The shit then hit the fan. Pretty simple. Ockham's Razor.
Now answer my question bot.
Putin hated Clinton.
You and Chris are unhinged.
And he would have never wanted sanctions lifted? He didn't know who would win. It was a twofer.
He could get back at her and if there was an upset get sanctions lifted.
Bot moron.
Just today, Trump announced that the sanctions would stay in place. What are you talking about?
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Safe to say you are slightly unhinged.
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Safe to say you can't answer the question. If no there is there, why do what Trump has done?
There is no answer other than he really is batshit crazy with a presidential death wish.
Yeah, he has no choice now. In fact it's the only way he may head off more serious ones from
Congress.
Riddle me this then. Why we're sanctions taken out of the platform in July 2016? That was his intent then.
Would you please stop talking to yourself, already. Sheesh!
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Out of the office. Phone posts.
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"...and if there was an upset get sanctions lifted." What happened to that theory?
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It got waylaid in the ethersphere of Flynn floating it to Kislyak
in December 2016. In other words it got intercepted and the shit then hit the fan ending that dream.
Serp to Fred. Sorry phone posting.
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The other big allegation is more direct
That Manafort or Stone someone else shared GOP voter roll info with those shady websites that everyone knew were fronts for Russia, so Putin's boys could direct their disinformation campaign where it would have the most effect.
If that turns out to be true, it should be an impeachable offense.
Keep dreaming, Mr. Shumer.
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