It would appear that we are all a bit guilty of being partisan when we are attacked.
There really is a problem on "all sides"
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amazing law enforcement and trauma surgeons - and it still ruined his life since he will never ever be close to the same after a high powered bullet ripped through his pelvic bone, bowels, bladder, genitals, and rectum). There are other examples from across the country of violence from the Left against police (random walk up head shot murders of police, destructive riots in the streets of Portland, Cal Berkely, and others, etc). The right has it's own issues as well.
OF COURSE THERE ARE TWO SIDES.
You will have to drop the "fuckstick" reactionary hateful outrage and moral arrogance, if you can, so that peace can be achieved. Both sides have to do this for this country to ever heal. The problem is, that I don't think radical TDS'ers can do this anymore. But it doesn't seem that you can drop the hate, even for a second.
I can only hope that your brain is so poisoned by racist mouthpiece tucker carlson and his ilk that you have lost all ability to think for yourself. In the past several months, you've come out very clearly in defense of Nazis and Russians. My grandparents taught me that Nazi ideology is never acceptable and my parents taught me that Russia is the foremost enemy of the United States.
The "holier than thou" attitude of this group has got to stop
I hate these bastards as much as they do; but they fail to recognize the problems on their own side
Racism is a one way street to these folks.....
The reaction to Scalise's shooting was unanimous and unequivocal.
The reaction to a successful provocation by American Nazis has been unanimous by everyone in positions of leadership EXCEPT the cretin in the White House.
And his loyal followers.
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It's a win-win for Chris, because either way, he gets people to support one of the two socialists.
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They are more of a bogeyman/useful propaganda for the right than a real movement, from what I can tell.
But I don't hear anyone singing their praises.
And if I were you, I certainly wouldn't watch the hundreds of hours of them assaulting/beating unarmed people in the streets. Yes, a "bogeyman."
But the Klan, that's a real, major threat in 2017 America. What's their membership at? Does it break three figures? Wait...no...lemme guess...the Southern Poverty Law Center pegs it at 3 million, including every elected Republican, along with Jim Webb?
If it's a contest to know more about antifa, I guess you win.
Congrats.
Violent black panther like organization and you are going to claim you dont know much about them
You should be embarassed; I have a lower opinion of you than ever.
Very hard to believe you served in the military
You are correct about the neo nazi's on the right, but you see your own problems as"bogeyman".
See any problems with that? See any issues with achieving peace as a country with that attitude? Do you really think that the door always gets to swing your way?
We are well and truly on our way to a civil war if you can't admit your own side's issues. The same is true on the Right.
Do both sides embrace the klan and the Nazis and the confederacy?
Moral equivalence is what people try to achieve when it is patently obvious that their side is at fault and they don't want to admit it.
You know, like you.
One side had all the proper permits, and the other side provoked violence
who cracked open the head of the peacemaker, who the adjunct believed to be a white supremacist, had killed him? Funny how how a near-lethal assault instead of a lethal assault can change everything, huh?
BTW, what are the approximate numbers on the Klan and "nazis" in the U.S. these days? I'd hate for you to be keeping "bogeymen" alive.
Was the act justified? Absolutely not. But you asked if both sides provoked violence. Yes. Obviously both sides provoked the fight. Only one side happened to kill someone here, but they both provoked the entire matter.
The right needs to think long and hard baout removing this trash frm its midst. but the Left has to lookat it's intentional practice of staging"anti-protests" . they didn't just do it for the WH Suprem rally, they have done it for simple trump Rallies as well. That is a formula for future problems. They need to stop. In this case, the anti-protestors from the left did not even have a permit to do what they did. The Left is not innocent here.
Nuclear war isn't what's going to bring down this country. Nor a trade war. Possibly a pandemic. More likely, though, it will be some sort of civil war and we're in short supply of Abe Lincolns these days. I never thought I'd say that in my lifetime, but given what the internet allows us to do, I could see it happening. Things that would have taken laborious efforts to coordinate in the past can now happen with a snap of the fingers and you can manipulate people far easier and reach far more people.
This country is going down the tubes.....it is a sad, sad day
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but I do know that you're exaggerating about them!"
Aces, kid!
From what I hear, they sound like creeps.
You know more about them than I do. You win!
No implication that I was exaggerating their danger at all!
Now I think he's a psychopath.
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The NDN handle/reference means what ?
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Fucking seriously...
You're ok with saying the anti-Nazis are as bad as the Nazis too? Really?
......don't put words in my mouth either. Let's be clear. The White Supremacists are loathesome. But let's also be clear, the Left BLM and ANTIFA are as well.
You simply cannot pretend you have some sort of high ground here. You don't. A Left wing Anti-Trump nut just shot the second highest ranking member of the GOP in the House, and was intending to kill many more. It was every bit as horrific as the Right Wing White Supremacist's evil action.
You guys on the left reveal your inability to have reasoned discourse and thinking when you can't even acknowledge the very obvious problem you own side. you can only see the problem on the other side. Please tell me you aren't that deeply indoctrinated.
comparing BLM to this nazi bullshit is something the nazi fucksticks want. don't be one of them.
you guys keep pointing to the sen. scalise shooting, which was terrible and rightfully denounced, but is not a pattern.
white supremacists have murdered 68 Americans since 9/11. This is a pattern.
If you compare BLM to this bullshit, then you're supporting the white supremacists and bigots.
be better than this.
....it disempowers them all. (Unless you secretly like have the radicals of ANTIFA out there to "shoot the fuck out of those fucksticks" should the chance arise).
I wish you showed even a 10th of this passion against the Islamic extremists who have so much more damage to western civilization. You really need to examine your motives.
Neither violent fringe group is helped if they are both denounced. Your behavior will certainly not prevent me from still denouncing the White Supremacists on the right, but it will also not prevent me from denouncing the violent faction on the Left either.
all I can find is that an antifa member was shot by someone in Seattle and a neonazi shot himself in the leg at the hoax antifa rally at Gettysburg.
this is just made up stuff.
Racism and hate is a one way street
Snowflake...
have you ever had an original thought in your head in your life or has it always been regurgitation of bullshit that people feed you?
I've come to understand that Trump is popular among a certain set who are tired of being disenfranchised their entire lives for being stupid. He makes you feel like educated people can't look down on you anymore. Enjoy it while it lasts because this train is derailing. What will dummies do when it happens?
You are everything wrong with the Democratic party rolled up into one pompous prick
If you support him, then I'm lumping you in with the dummies who are allowing this racist bullshit to be legitimized.
And, frankly, I think we all know that PAIrish is not smart. He's a hanger on who barfs up whatever Tucker Carlson fed him last night.
Work place violence, not terrorism, only it wasn't. The police acted stupidly, only they didn't. After Ferguson, it was both sides. Trump rally goers pursued down a street...condemn Trump. San Bernardino terror attack?...let's talk about gun control on non-violent Americans, let's not talk about radical Islam. One of the radio guys listed a bunch of Obama's "everyone needs to cool down" examples. Always seemed that if a Muslim attacked, we needed to stop violence on all sides (and then Obama would return to the his golf game in Martha's Vineyard), or maybe it was even our fault, because maybe someone made a movie on youtube or burned a Koran in Florida. If both Obama and Trump say we don't know the motives of the attacker yet, Obama is praised, and Trump is attacked. This is all politics as usual, again. The rules have changed because of who is in office.
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When one side are Nazi's, the other side is irrelevant.
to be clear, you are okay with guys with swastika tattoos holding a torchlit rally and then one of them driving their car into a crowd of people, killing one?
I should add from the outset that I'm defending Baron here, which should be a "hell freezes over" moment for everyone witnessing it. Your hysterical accusations of racism are absurd and you look like the child Trump is when you behave like this. Pull yourself together, for crying out loud. No one here remotely argued or implied that this murder was acceptable. You sound like a blithering, emotive idiot when you engage in sophistry like this.
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Long referred to the White Citizens Council and the NCAAP as "the extremists on both sides of the issue" of desegregation.
All of the language used by Trump yesterday has been carefully crafted to mirror the Southern Strategy used by the GOP in the 1950's and 1960's. Well, all of the language other than his ad libbed advertisement for his Virginia-based winery, which was bizarre and totally inappropriate.
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I get it Chicago, "Your hate is worse then my hate", eh?
how about we all let go of the hate. How about you stop pretending to have moral high ground that you don't. Until this week, people from the Violent Left has been guilty of so many egregious acts, it's just stupid to pretend otherwise. BLM and ANTIFA are just as evil.
pandering.
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Impeach Putin!!
Anyone named Obama or Clinton?
after Berkely, and after all of the BLM and ANTIFA violent riots across this country including in the week after the election when they protested the RESULT OF A FREE AMERICAN ELECTION that you don't also have a violence problem on the Left?! You are just fucking crazy.
the common man.....
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..........because he thinks it's justified because their cause is "Just". That's how liberals think.
But when hatred arises on the Right, well that is an entirely different matter altogether.
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There are violent fringe groups that gravitate to both sides who do this, but they are not representative of either political group.
They are the fringe that must be rooted out by both sides. If both sides don't cooperate to do so, neither side will be successful at doing it.
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