...is there any doubt that another rural American would intervene and stop the rape? Or, do you think the rape would be allowed to continue for 40 minutes with people taking videos and not calling 911? Of course the rape would be stopped. The rapist might be dead today.
This crime is not even understandable to the rural mind or the suburban mind. Totally incomprehensible. WTF???
Open Borders again proving its benefit to society.
The reason this assault reached the headlines was because of the stranger-on-stranger nature of the assault, the fact that it was on the subway in mid-day, and people did nothing. The commonplace sexual assaults involving father on daughter, step-father on step-daughter, husband on wife, teenager on teenager, do not get reported in the news, and they are often horrific. I've had cases where a father raped his daughter from ages 11-16 at least 1x a week and gave her HIV and was training the 5 y/o; father on 6 y/o daughter for months and she outcried in her classroom when the teacher asked the class to draw a picture of nighttime and she drew a picture of him sodomizing her in the bath; girls who physically could not move their mouths to speak about what their step-dad did and the only evidence we had was DNA; it goes on. And these are just the reported cases. Because the perpetrator is often in a position of power over the girl., she often does not report the events. Thus, many cases LE never finds out about.
In fairness to Chris but not to take away from your point, what I just described may happen in the country with the same frequency.
People who have a concern for their fellow man don't video rape for 40 minutes and fail to call the police. They intervene according to their ability.
A corrupt culture makes events like this possible. A healthy culture makes events like this incomprehensible.
Again, the "event" is not the rape; it is the behavior of surrounding society allowing the rape.
60’s.
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqNMjZpSbnU
However, to answer your thoughts -,
It’s a Crime and it’s a shame no one responded to help her.
These kind of reactions to a crime in progress happen in small communities too - they’re just not widely reported.
PS: - it’s a CRIME and their lack of response to help her is a SHAME. It is not a CULTURE.
No, Jim. It doesn’t. Urban behavior and mores really are a lot worse than rural. Anyone who has lived in both places knows this. It’s absurd to argue otherwise though you’ll do it because you’ve been fed the false narrative that everybody is the same everywhere rather than admit you really are worse.
The truth often hurts.
It's literally inconceivable that a woman could be assaulted in broad daylight in front of any group of people out here and no one would step in and help. It's inconceivable that someone could be shooting up in public, defecating on the sidewalk, vandalizing a government building/school/store in plain view and that would not be soon stopped, in contrast to The Madness. It's inconceivable that anyone would drive around firing guns into homes.
When you mention this, random memories pop into my head. I think of early Louis CK commenting on how living in New York and riding the subway meant that you would have to say this about whatever you were carrying with you on the train: "This is mine, so don't pee on it." I think of the obnoxious man who came into my summer gig who was apoplectic that we would keep a donation jar out without being secured. I looked at the guestbook and naturally, he was from the Twin Cities, where he of course expects that money out in the open will be stolen. I think of another visitor who moved up from the South who armed herself at all times, who was stunned when she went out looking for her lost dog and the man who drove up the lane in his truck stopped, asked her what was wrong, told her to climb in, and proceeded to help her look for a couple hours, rather than robbing or raping her. (I told her that while I don't want to tell her there are no dangers, she doesn't need that same level of paranoia here and that people are overwhelmingly kind.) I think of the state public radio segment about a woman who decided to leave the city and "farm" (I use that in a very loose sense) and how shocked she was that all the "white men" around her in the country were actually so kind and helpful to her.
It can’t just be that there are vastly more people in cities so we should expect vastly varied experiences.
No, it has to be part of your dipshit culture-war narrative.
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Make it about me, and not about an incomprehensible act committed in public that you have to admit would most certainly be stopped elsewhere. That is the political way to respond. But, it is not a realistic way to analyze what happened.
Multiple people filmed a rape on their phones rather than call 911, and rather than intervening to restrain the rapist. For 40 minutes by one report. Just another varied experience in your mind. Well done. Deflect. Make it political, when it really is cultural.
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A rape...40 minutes...no calls to 911 by multiple people, all close enough to video it on their phones...on their phones...but you would try to defend it as natural.
That likely doesn’t happen in public in either rural or suburban America.
It’s been that way for a while though if you are attempting to ascribe a current cultural connection. Google up the Kitty Genovese case.
From Wikipedia:
Researchers have since uncovered major inaccuracies in the New York Times article. Police interviews revealed that some witnesses had attempted to call the police.
Reporters at a competing news organization discovered in 1964 that the Times article was inconsistent with the facts, but they were unwilling at the time to challenge Times editor Abe Rosenthal. In 2007, an article in the American Psychologist found "no evidence for the presence of 38 witnesses, or that witnesses observed the murder, or that witnesses remained inactive". In 2016, the Times called its own reporting "flawed", stating that the original story "grossly exaggerated the number of witnesses and what they had perceived"
Regardless, I wasn't arguing that urban culture decayed in the past year...which is to say, I wasn't trying to make this political. As you know, that is not my style.
I never said how many fell into this category, or that the report may not have been exaggerated. You may find the same thing about this incident by the way.
And your style of making everything political is well known here. The fact that you deny it is just more evidence of you being the shuffler.
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It’s futile. Sad excuse for a human being and a disgrace to ND.
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