two shots would be enough and also said they will keep you alive and out of the hospital. But now we also have to take the booster?
What’s next a mandated shot every year to work in America?
How soon can a mandated flu shot be expected?
Thousands of people are in the hospital every year from the flu and spread it to other employees.
Seems heart disease, diabetes are a great problem also for a country with close to 60% of the population obese.
Should the government and corporations insist on Body fat limits since they also kill thousands each year?
Could you imagine that and the lawsuits that would follow.
Slippery slope.
Working and help reduce missed work time, LOA’s, etc. I can’t imagine how much $ some larger employers have had to pay out for employees that have missed work due to actually having COVID/quarantining.
Maybe they know too many people are relying on handouts, and they aren’t willing to work. This would be a way to attempt to keep the working class safe. And if this is how it plays out, I can’t say that I’d blame them.
Not like it’s a big deal.
This is a new virus. We’re learning more about it all the time.
determines your future. Even if you were following guidelines. Where does it all end? And I’m not against vaccines.
Six weeks ago, you implored all Americans to get vaccinated, witnessing the harrowing drama of your son-in-law’s Covid hospitalization.
Then you retreated to your safe room, when posters had the audacity to suggest that January 6th was worse than September 11th (because it was).
Yes, you knew people who died on September 11th, and of course, the trials and tribulations of your life are more profound than everyone else, because the world revolves around you, snowflake.
Now, it appears you are walking back your sense of urgency that Americans get vaccinated. Back to joining Da Resistance, making sure private sector employees don’t get stomped by The Man!
So brave, Chad!
Fight on!
Explain how 1/6 was anywhere close to 9/11 you fucking moron
From my prior post last month:
“I get that all the simpletons on this Board can only measure damage by “shock ‘n awe” and the number of American lives lost, …. the same simpletons who were unmoved by 400k US COVID deaths in 2020 — #1 on the planet — USA! USA! USA!
The surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and the evil terrorist plot of 9/11 were indeed shocking and tragic blows to our peaceful and innocent quality of life, but both events galvanized our nation, evidenced by how our “best selves” united together in our response. Pearl Harbor awoke a “sleeping giant.” September 11th reinvigorated our greatness, beginning with the bravery of FDNY and so many other selfless and heroic citizens who responded.
January 6th was not an ambush. It was a frontal assault on our democracy, advertised and orchestrated for months by a sitting US President, enabled by cowardly and dishonest members of Congress. January 6th didn’t galvanize us. It exposed how broken and divided we have become as a people, and how broken and divided we remain as evidenced by this thread. Dishonesty, Cowardice, Delusion, Hate are now American’s “values.”
Democracy was our brand. Truth was our power. No one did it better than America. Then along came Trump. Then along came January 6th.
And we still cannot find our ass.”
Link: https://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Washington-Almost-Democracy-Still/dp/059323152X
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makes you incapable of understanding that you are often wrong. The same types you criticize on the other side represents your small minded mentality that you are always right. Look in the mirror you are just like those you hate.
Quite the contrary.
You took flight away from the Board because posters have opposing views about the gravity of January 6th vs September 11th.
I understand folks have opposing viewpoints. But, rather than attack the poster, I endeavor to make my case.
Compare/contrast the replies in this thread by other posters.
Fine me any post I ever made supporting 1/6. I dare you. Dumbass.
We can’t convince a critical chunk of our population to get the first jab.
Yet, you seem to think that mandatory booster shots deserves a full throated discussion and debate?
I have repeatedly posted that there is no constitutional right to a job. If the medical experts deem booster shots necessary, causing employers to require them, then get the booster or hit the bricks.
might agree that is appropriate but I promise you half the country will oppose government controlling their lives.
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on C19 and on 1/6.
Show me a post where I supported 1/6? Don’t change the subject. Can you answer my original question and leave politics out of it. Can you at least try?
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Remember "hang Mike Pence"! But keep your head in the sand!
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Remember "hang Mike Pence"! But keep your head in the sand!
I asked a question and you won’t answer. Either you aren’t very bright or just a retard. And you hurt my feelings. Haha. You are one of the dumbest posters on this board. Go get a flu shot before you get fired and lose some weight fatty.
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have worked exceedingly well, resulting in a major reduction in cases, etc, up until Spring time of this year...then, the Delta variant rapidly became the dominant strain with much higher transmissibility and at a time when folks were feeling the need to "Open Up" and mingle...then came a surge in cases/hospitalizations/deaths...that's life in the virus vs. vaccine game...so, booster shots are the logical response.
...also, most vaccines require "booster shots" to maintain immunity...even the Seasonal Flu requires a newly formulated shot every year...it's not at all unusual.
Just be glad you have vaccines, and the technology to rather rapidly 're-formulate' them, should the need arise due to another variant...I hope we don't need it, but it's under discussion as we speak.
As for the other maladies, they are not "Communicable" diseases...so no need for mandates...you can relax now...at least on that concern.
Note: Conor's NYT link earlier shows the COVID cases dynamic over time...you can see what happened in graphic detail.
And was science talking about breakthroughs. No Pope Fauci himself said get vaccinated twice you no longer need to worry or wear a mask.
Remember?
So now we know according to science says they were wrong so now we need another booster.
Answer my question. Do thousands of people now and before Covid die of the flu. Why wasn’t the flu shot mandated?
And if the booster is mandated to work at your job, why isn’t the flu shot.
So your statement above is wrong people die and give others the flu. Right?
when you're ranting about non-communicable maladies possibly needing 'mandates', I have to wonder if you're really fully engaged...
You're a good guy...you expressed what I remember to be strong feelings toward getting vaccinated after your SIL got sick with COVID (that was you, right?)...so just as the medical profession helped him, rely on that same group of dedicated Docs and get a booster, if you are advised to do that.
Or, is this just a politically motivated post?
government or corporations to take away anyone’s jobs. As I said about my SIL at the time, he had Covid and both shots and was a breakthrough. Should he now lose his job if he doesn’t get the booster? Who decides that?
From the scientific community that learns everyday how wrong they have been? Why do we punish workers when the facts keep changing? Does that make sense to you?
Remember my SIL was told he had nothing to worry about? And yet he ended up in the hospital.
And as I mentioned why isn’t the flu shot mandated. That can kill you too and your coworkers. I don’t like any government that threatens people with unemployment when they don’t have all the facts.
Do you?
not gotten us anywhere near to where we "should be"...Good Grief!...we've got all the vaccine you could ever want...it's safe, and it's sufficiently effective (NOT PERFECT) that it dramatically reduces hospitalizations and deaths, with very few exceptions (e.g. your SIL...it happens...he was unlucky)...there's no reason for us not to be well over 80% fully vaccinated...then we'd have almost empty COVID ICUs and sharply declining cases, which means we really get back to 'normal'.
Since too many are playing politics with this pandemic, the only thing left is for the adults in the room to issue "Mandates"...if you really want to change the situation, start yelling as loud as you can at the anti-vaxers, and all those who enable them. BTW, most mandates I've seen allow for a "testing option", so people don't need to lose their jobs...also, many businesses have seen 95-99% compliance...it doesn't have to be 'onerous'.
The longer we play "footsie" with this pathogen, the more time it has to mutate...and it will...guaranteed...with very uncertain results.
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They (the Medical Pros) haven't changed their game plan one iota...stay the course...listen to them...they won't lead you astray...(unlike a few other posters here).
Apropos of nothing...when you get a chance, I'd like to hear more about your involvement with Aviation...I'm interested in almost anything related to that field.
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transmissibility, vaccines and treatments...and, unfortunately 'politics'...i.e. 'disrupters' who want to use COVID for 'other' non-health reasons.
certain. About the long term impacts, etc. If a major corporation fired any employee that didn’t agree with various policies that are still uncertain I would also resist. But if employees were told get the two shots or else your fired and now the booster comes along where does it all stop.
As I said obese people weigh heavy, no pun intended, on health insurance rates for the country and corporations. If either demanded a limit on BMI wouldn’t that make sense like mandated vaccines.
What’s the difference? Both can kill you.
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fucking thing in Brandon's America
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