This post will drag all the R hypocrites out of the wood work.
So who agrees that a commercial airline pilot shouldn't be saying the euphuism for "F**k Joe Biden"? As far as I know the pilot wasn't flying a R campaign staff, was on company time and wasn't asked for his opinion on Joe Biden. Also, any attempt to invoke 1st Amendment rights please STFU.
So if Soutwest fires him you'll agree that was the right call, right?
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So, did you find any hypocrites?
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Imagine taking medical advice from politicians
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As a former commercial pilot for an international and domestic carrier, very unprofessional so,
he will probably be fired but rehired with a slap on the wrists. The last thing any carrier wants is a dust-up with ALPA or which ever pilots' union is on SWA.
Southwest used to promote their attendants and pilots being creative and witty when communicating.
Has backfired at times.
Political correctness has disabused the airline somewhat of that liberty but as I wrote, typically
combined with a promise not to do the same "unprofessional activity again," one would get off with a slap on the wrist for mere unprofessionalism.
On one occasion, we parked at the gate at LAX and after an inordinate amount of time waiting for the gate agent to open the forward passenger door of an L-10LL, we three pilots caught a ride down to the ground through the forward galley door and on an elevated food delivery truck, jumped on the crew bus to the employee parking lot and went home. The cabin attendants were not amused as they were left with angry passengers waiting for an agent to open the door so they turned us in to management who were even less amused so the next morning we were all fired. None of us did anything but wait and sure enough, five days later before our next scheduled flight we were individually called by a supervisor who handed the phone over to the chief pilot who reminded us of our duty to the safety of the passengers and flight attendants whether in the air or at the gate, notwithstanding that under company policy the gate agents were in charge of boarding and deplaning and without an emergency, the flight attendants were in charge of the passengers when on the ground at the gate. After promising not to undertake such an exit strategy again, we were each told to report for our scheduled flight the next day. The next day none of us said a word about the incident until after take-off, climbing out and reaching our initial cruise altitude of 31000' when the captain looked across at me, tried to put on a serious face, started to wag his finger at me and the three of us just erupted in uncontrollable laughter. Luckily, we had a different cabin crew so we got the usual first class meals.
In those days all of the junior pilots had flown combat missions in Vietnam so many of us with the exception of safety, had a G.A.S. attitude about many things.
Re: Political correctness has disabused the airline somewhat of that liberty but as I wrote, typically
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Biden appears to fall asleep during COP26 opening speeches, Washington Post reporter Zach Brown
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Good. He does less harm when asleep.
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Why does this matter to you? Does it affect your life? Are you harmed personally in some way?
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Japan approves widespread Ivermectin adoption, COVID disappears:
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It is free speech and the employer is free to discipline however they see fit.
Pretty simple, not sure why your panties are in a bunch over it.
Last time I checked this is a message board, no?
As I consume different media I see those pro and those against.
I am commenting on the tone of your post.
It's free speech as is my reaction. Cheers.
Lisa Page and Peter Strozk were investigating Trump and called him a loathsome idiot and said
they could smell his supporters at a Walmart. The Left never saw a problem with the fact that two lovebird FBI agents who hated Trump were also investigating him, to say nothing of Weisman, etc. If it was appropriate for Trump-haters to investigate Trump, then it must surely be appropriate for an airline pilot to rag on Biden, no?
He is a loathsome idiot that attracts Walmart skunk bears in Meechigan.
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Cole, you're lost...wonder back to the topic.
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Ok, next time a teacher encourages support for Democrats, fired.
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In the classroom? Absolutely!
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And the universities of the country just lost 80% of their teachers.
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There might be a sudden shortage of teachers. But, obviously would never happen.
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How's this relative Ned?
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I agree
He shouldn't have said it. It's a harmless remark that pokes fun at the media. But he was out of line.
And he shouldn't be fired.
How does it "poke fun at the media"?
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Do a tiny bit of research and report back
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Depending on context, it is probably unprofessional.
For example, if he or she (let's just go with he, like you did) said it to his passengers, it could be a firable offense. I'd have to hear the context. If I ran an airline, I would want to serve both Lefties and Righties, so I wouldn't want my employees making political statements. But, I might just reprimand him, rather than fire him.
If he said it over the airways to other pilots, I don't think that is, by itself, a firable offense. There would have to be more. I get the impression that pilots joke around all the time when not being the face of the company to its customers.
Do you agree? Or, do you want him fired no matter what because he disagrees with you politically? that is the typical approach of the Left: make sure people can never make a living again.
Pilot went over the intercom and thought he would be a funny guy
In this redonkulessly highly charged political climate SW's business model is not worth saving 1 pilot who doesn't know "a time and a place for everything!"
p.s. If this was the other way around I'd absolutely say fire him/her!
"Please fasten your seatbelts. Put your seats and tray tables in the upright & locked position and
...Let's Go, Brandon!"
No. I won't agree it was the right call. But since you want to take the 1st Amendment away
the topic cannot be discussed. Does that sound about right?
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you're a somewhat smart guy
Does 1st Amendment rights give you the right to say what you want without repercussions at your job?
Depends on the situation. I can say that losing a job over a bullshit statement like that should
not happen. It shouldn't go from 0 to nuclear. At a time when we need people working, why not reprimand the pilot?
As far as my job, I have been here 22 years and have been known to say things out loud that others are thinking. My reputation in my company is really good so I would get some rope and not be fired right away. But I also work in a very blue collar industry where everyone isn't sensitive.
I understand you think that was a fair and balanced response but...
say you sign a employee agreement that says "No posting on social media about the company, politics, etc" and they still do it. Would the company have every right to fire said employee after the first offense?
IF this was done and he still broke the rules, then so be it. He should get what is coming to him.
Are you aware if SW asks their Pilots to sign such a document or are you just grasping and hoping so he can be fired?
You're taking this too person, relax man. The point is as a society we are letting politics
turn us stupid unfortunately. Dude could've just flown the plane, collect hi 150-200k salary and be happy. There is a time and a place for everything.
Not everyone is fired up because they are responding to your post questioning you.
You brought up this contract and I asked if you were aware if they had one. You started this thread claiming SW should fire this guy and then claim people letting "politics turn us stupid". You are right about people taking things too personal but it's mostly the left who wants everyone canceled and or fired for disagreeing with them.
It's typically how libs view the world. They're all victims so when you question them...
...they see it as an attack. He does the internet tough guy act but he's as transparent as Tyrone.
Colin Kapernick agrees. Both he and the pilot should be cut.
But if the guy said Fuck Trump you'd build a statue on BLM Boulevard.