They are complying with the EO. Some of our customers are and some aren't. Among the ones who are there is a wide variation in how they are applying it. e.g. some are only requiring it if you are onsite. They are also requiring their vendors to be vaccinated.
I'm curious how many of our employees will actually provide their status and proof (which will be uploaded to "the database").
I don't see how this doesn't violate HIPPA and other privacy rights. For me, I'm undecided on what I will do. I'm guessing a lot of people are just going to tell the company to fuck off. I'm leaning that way.
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I work for a company wth a lot of blue collar type workers. As you know, they are difficult to find and hire right now. This mandate could potentially cripple my company because these guys can easily leave and find a new job with a company of less than 100 employees. And they will rather than beng told they have to take something they are opposed to.
and they both refused to answer. It is painfully obvious that a lot of CDC employees are refusing the vaccine. It's been widely available for months and yet not all are vaccinated.
What's good enough for CDC employees should be good enough for you.
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from Brandon as usual.
Their CNN medical degrees telling you to “just get the shot and be happy about it”. I am probably going to be in the same situation. I would say about 30% of my company isn’t vaxxed. I have always believed this is a personal choice and not one to be shoved down our throats by the government. But we have to protect the vaxxed. Just make sure you take a allergy pill today to protect those who have allergies.
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Wear your mask while you’re driving in the car by yourself. We get it, you’re terrified of this virus. I respect that and your choice to be a paranoid person. Don’t expect the rest to live that way.
You and your family have been endowed with special powers.
Protected, right. That should be good enough for you but it’s not.
You have invented for yourself or construed pieces of non-related facts to create a myth that because I say or many of us say - get vaccinated - there is something else happening. Well there isn’t anything else happening.
Get vaccinated, that’s it. If the entire country does so, we’re all safer and healthier.
If you and yours don’t get vaccinated you’ve given the virus an opportunity to spread, mutate and become even more lethal.
Yes you have a choice. Be a fuckwad by not getting the shot, or be a good citizen and get the shot.
We already know you’ve chosen to be a fuckwad.
It’s really that simple.
Bill Maher even said that the hospital admission rate for both vaxxed and unvaxxed is less than 1%. If me making a choice not to take a shot that I don't want makes me whatever name you want to call me, so be it. If you can guarantee that I will not catch COVID, spread it or have no long term issues if I were to take the shot, then I would think about it. You and many others trying to shame people into thinking like you gets old. When are you going to realize that the more you push the more people are going to continue to tell you to go fuck yourself.
Live your life and worry about you and yours. That is exactly what I and many others are choosing to do. You just can't stand it because we aren't falling in line. If you are vaccinated, you are protected. End of discussion.
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Play out for me and others In my group. A large portion of us aren’t vaxxed. Hundreds of years of knowledge in our industry and service to our company all could be washed away with one fucked up mandate from a power hungry group of politicians. We, as a family, have had many conversations about how to handle this. It won’t be easy to walk away but right now, that’s where we sit. I hope it doesn’t come to that but we will see.
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There are many colorable claims as to why both the EO and OSHA ETS are unlawful power grabs, but the HIPPA privacy is not one of them.
Attached is a complaint which details some of those
Link: https://governor.sd.gov/doc/8thCircuitVaccineMandateFiling.pdf
It’s also safe.
It’s a no-brained.
I know covid is safe for me because I have had it and recovered in three days. Why is the government so insistent on ignoring that fact and pushing a vaccine for which there are so many unknowns?
I took cipro years ago - that was safe too - and guess what, I have multiple and persistent tendon problems now.
"It is safe" is coming from the same companies that:
- pushed Oxy as hard as they could for $$$
- have a history of fabricating or hiding data that showed previous medications as dangerous and used them anyway - see Vioxx, Bextra, Geodon, Zyvox, Lyrica, Risperdal, Invega, Nesiritide
- will make unprecedented billions off this vaccine
Why does the OSHA rule exclude Novavax which is close to approval?
The mRNA may or may not be safe - who knows, but there is a reason they discontinued it as a delivery method for chemo - issues in getting the trials institutionally approved. So why is it all of a sudden ok now?
If it is all about safety, how can they mandate something that does not prevent you from getting covid and does not prevent you from spreading it? How does that make the workplace safer?
Well it may lessen the severity of the illness - well wouldn't that be a personal choice? We all make choices and have to live with them. I am vehemently opposed to the government making a choice for me.
1905 precedent you say? Well small pox had a 30% fatality rate, there were no effective treatments and the vaccine was actually a vaccine and worked - not a therapeutic that had some efficacy over 4 months and then rapirdly declined and required consistent follow up boosters. Zero small pox was an achievable goal, zero covid is not - and all for a virus that has a mortality rate of around .15%.
The willingness for people to blindly go along with this is very disheartening.
Yes, blindly without discernment listening to the likes of Carlson and all the other mouth pieces who are not scientists
immunologists is completely disheartening.
Please repeat all their talking points again.
show me a study about the long term effects of repeated injections of mRNA.........oh, there are not any? that is what I thought.
This is genetic engineering masquerading as a vaccine, and it is not even a vaccine any more since at most it offers some protection for a few months.
You want the vaccine, go right ahead and get it. I know personally, from experience, that Covid is not a risk for me, my wife or kids, so do not force your choices on me you corncob
the vaccine can't help them now.
The more you "corncobs" reject being vaccinated the more opportunity for the virus to mutate and become more
potent, lethal and keep the pandemic growing. The longer mandates will exist, mask wearing will remain a part of
our lives and the continued unnecessary loss of life growing.
No one likes wearing a mask, no one likes getting needles stuck in their arms and no one likes dying. You
apparently like two of them - and no, you're not immune to COVID viruses and neither are your family members.
Facts in it. Chris and his ilk seem to want more big government in their lives. Cannot think for themselves so need to be told what decision to make.
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Okay I believe in science guy - tell me why did they discontinue their efforts to use mRNA as a delivery method for Chemo?
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Every other thing he has fucked up since taking over. I’m sure you will want all these Illegals pouring over the border to move into your neighborhood. You know the ones who don’t have to be vaccinated.
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No, it's not his problem but he is being forced to make a decision that could cost him his job. You're fine with that because its being driven by a Liberal President.
the military not being forced…..not sure why you guys think it’s ok to force anyone.
I am SO strongly against this assault on others. It is what the Left really desire….control of others.
And again, yes, I’m vaccinated.