I was waiting for the "...and Notre Dame has research going on to solve this problem...." But, no. No pro-ND aspect to it at all. Just "we have to do something." Just a political ad. WTF was that? So, why don't you frickin' do something, Notre Dame? Why are you sitting on your ass? Are you not a research institution??
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Harder to recruit when you have a sheet of ice a mile high sitting on South Bend. Even Rockne would have had a hard time recruiting 18,000 years ago.
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I'm guessing that the clip was there because of Fr. Jenkins...who is undoubtedly influenced by Fr. Ted...who, in the recent book about him ("Hesburgh of Notre Dame...The Church's Public Intellectual", by Todd C. Ream) is reputed by the author to have had very early thoughts about "Climate Change" (i.e. in the mid-1970s), as per this paragraph...(pg. 88)...
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Driving Hesburgh's concern was not only the fact that some members of the planet had too little to eat, but also that "climatic change has had a disasterous effect on food production." In addition, climate change was taking place in locales where food production was already in a fragile state. For example, "the Sahara Desert is moving south at about 30 miles a year," threatening new regions of the continent in terms of their abilities to feed their respective populations...(ND Archives)...Referencing a now familiar metaphor in Spaceship Earth, Hesburgh claimed that what was needed was a new "world perspective based upon the interdependence of all mankind on this relatively small spacecraft with very finite life resources" ((ND Archives).
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You may not like it, but ND still aspires to have an 'Intellectual' as well as Catholic Faith based influence on world affairs...and as the attached link demonstrates, a lot of other intellectuals on this planet agree on the need for increased attention to Climate Change.
BTW...don't freak out about the reference to the Sahara heading south at 30 miles per year...that's a mis-statement from another source...some current estimates say 30 miles per decade, but most observers agree that the desert region is expanding.
Link: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/09/14/in-response-to-climate-change-citizens-in-advanced-economies-are-willing-to-alter-how-they-live-and-work/
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Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2i5GGvBU0cA
I look forward to ND's "intellectual" ad on heliocentrism. I hear Fr. Jenkins was early on that issue as well. I'm sure you are wondering why ND focused only on climate change. That would show how intellectual Notre Dame is, using your argument.
Or, unlike Conor, are you admitting that ND is now running ads during football games on hot button political issues, rather than running ads about Notre Dame and how great Notre Dame is.
There are only a couple options here.
1) ND is running an ad touting a principal of science, like Conor says, which is stupid.
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2) ND is running an ad pushing for political action, which is also a stupid move (but, I look forward to their ad saying that we must do something about all the dying people in abortions in America, and I'm sure you and Conor do as well).
If they had switched to a lab at ND, where they are analyzing ice cores to explain what was happening to the earth, I would not have posted on this.
If they had shown an organization of students volunteering to address the problem, I would not have posted.
They did neither of those things. Or did I miss something?
order to change our collective behavior when it comes to energy sources, the problem itself has nothing to do with politics...it is a factual issue for mankind. Notre Dame's leadership (gong back to Fr. Ted, for sure, and perhaps to Fr. Sorin) sees the mission of the university IMO as one where our Catholic Faith (Theology) is 'added', or brought to bear on such an 'Intellectual/Scientific' issue.
You may have issues with the manner in which the university communicates, but the 'message' is still the same...ND sees Climate Change as a vital issue to be dealt with...and as an 'Intellectual Bridge' between "Eternity" and the "Mortal Present" (my term), it wants to make clear that it is "Fully Engaged" in resolving this problem.
I only saw a few moments of Conor's linked video with Fr. Jenkins, but I'd suggest you watch it all, as I will, to get a fuller "Back Story" to the Ad you saw yesterday.
P.S. The book on Fr. Ted that I referenced earlier provides a good insight into his view of role as priest and educator...perhaps not the most 'stylistically' polished publication, but one that does indeed add context to his many endeavors...for those who appreciate all that Fr. Ted has done for this institution we all love.
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let's stay on point and not deflect to another subject. Why were you so upset about the Ad?...I'm sure it wasn't because there was no Grad Student speaking from a lab...you don't agree that CC is a real issue, do you?...you think it's totally fake and a tool of those "Leftists"...that's what we need to keep dialoging about, since the vast majority of knowledgable people in the world's developed nations disagree with that line of thinking.
Start a thread on the substantive issues of CC if you want. That is not this thread.
This thread is about ND wasting it's halftime segment on a political issue instead of touting something great about the University.
more than a political hoax, and therefore you view the TV Ad by Notre Dame a total waste of time, as well as being a fraudulent representation of reality...am I getting close to why you are annoyed?
Since it's abundantly clear that both Fr. Jenkins and Pope Francis see CC as an imperative issue for the Catholic Church, and one of its major universities, we're going to have to carry on the discussion of why CC is considered very real indeed and why Fr. Jenkins believes it's important to show the public that ND is "ALL IN" on CC.
BTW, my response to your initial post was spot on based on Conor's posted link of Fr. Jenkins' Climate Change "Call to Action" gathering at ND...and I answered your initial question about CC and why it was the subject of the TV Ad...let's stay on that issue and not conflate it with another one (e.g. Abortion).
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something now”. I am following their advice.
Thank you for waking me from my I inattentive state.
Edit. Advertisement added
Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zXqhbHfrj-c
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conor wants to stress it wasn't a political ad, but that makes it more embarrassing.
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Nor Covid-19
Nor Congressional subpoenas
Nor oaths of office
Nor one’s right to vote
Nor the rule of law
Nor basic truths
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Fucking douchebag, right?
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I would have been fine if they shifted to the studies or research or volunteer work ND people are doing. But they didn't do that. They just paid for an add on a political football.
The climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years, and warming for the last 18,000 years. That is not a political issue, and never was. It is only the "we have to do something now, like give money to Democrat donors, or the children will die" that makes it a political issue.
But, if you are right, and ND is not trying to get people to take political actoin, why is ND buying an add to support a mere principle of science? Will they buy an add to support the round earth next?...and fail to mention that ND educates people about the round earth? Or heliocentrism? Or gravity? Obviously, they want the ad to lead to political action. And if they don't, then maybe they need to think about how effective the ad is.
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81 million Americans agreed.
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Schmucks will never admit that. I’m sure a large portion of those supposedly 81 million are regretting their vote.
Take your tripe to the Uneducated Board.
Climate Change is a real thing.
Climate Conference. Do they not know the damage they are doing or do they just not care? Even out Climate Czar has his own jet. It’s almost like they don’t believe their own bullshit.
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Feel free to write a nasty letter and threaten to hold off sending the University your annual $75 contribution.
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Life. Beauty. Responsibility. Vision.
Any chance you overreacted a tad?
I was expecting them to transition to a study by ND, or a volunteer project, like they usually do. They didn't.
It wouldn’t make sense to have a student make the pitch, standing near the Grotto with St. Mary’s lake in the background, as that setting is not identified as ground zero for climate change. Hence, the student was standing on a beach, with the ocean in the background.
Notre Dame was speaking on behalf of the planet. That is called leadership.
Keep in mind that advertisements are often part of a campaign of ads, centered around a theme. We have seen Notre Dame run a series of ads of Notre Dame students, faculty, and alumni serving the poor around the globe. I gather those ads did not strike you as “political” — as the University was endorsing the idea that serving the needy in poor nations lifts all of us, — and certainly befitting of the University’s Catholic values.
Isn’t the idea of protecting God’s planet (and vulnerable people) from the threat of climate change a worthy priority?
They showed ND students tackling the issue.
That is why those commercials are different than this one.
If ND ran an ad showing why immigrants are streaming into the best country in the world, and then showed ND students trying to address the core issue in Guatemala, or even ND students helping illegal aliens get settled, that would be different. This ad was missing the "ND action" aspect, and so it was just a political ad, not an ad showing why people should come to ND. in fact, it was an ad that seems more calculated to bring politically-minded students to ND (of one color...blue), not an ad to bring civic-minded students to ND.
If so, a good thing, right?
The Young Republicans can always go to Oral Roberts or Liberty or some school with a Gilead culture where books are screened by their minders.
Supposedly
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I don't blame you.
Universities are like the worst possible donation. Spend the endowment, jerks.
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