The CDC says that 146,000,000 were infected! So why must they be jabbed?
If we could go forward a decade and look back we would see that the pandemic was defeated naturally.
As to deaths... how many will there be in the future because we delayed allowing nature to take its course?
Link: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html
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There are 600K cancer deaths per year...do we let them die out "naturally"?...or do we take steps to
extend lives and even prevent such diseases?
Fortunately, your comments are considered laughable by the vast majority of humanity...but nonetheless, deserving of scorn.
We don't mandate healthy behavior that prevents cancer.
We tax unhealthy behavior in some cases, but we don't normally say: if you don't quit smoking while eating cheeseburgers, you'll get fired.
We don't propose (as people here have) that if you don't stop smoking, you will not receive health care.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.". -
James Madison
In this case CoVid is the foreign enemy.
The point is, Cheeks, that we treat people with serious illnesses, and in the case of communicable
diseases we also take steps to ensure that as few people as possible become victims...if the seriousness of the situation gets to the point where the common good is severely threatened, then mandates have been authorized, as has occurred in the past...for instance the SCOTUS allowed 'Forced' vaccination in 1905 for Smallpox in Massachusetts, and an overwhelming number of localities have authorized mandatory vaccinations of kids for measles and other diseases...military personnel are mandated to get vaccinated with a whole host of vaccines depending on their deployment locations.
COVID-19 is another serious disease and will be managed with the same attention to the common good...fortunately, we have vaccines that are manifestly safe, low cost and easily accessible, so there's no difficulty in prescribing them to the population...and real time evidence proves it.
Not at all sure where you're headed with the James Madison rant, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to go there.
Cancer is and smallpox was far more dangerous to your average healthy person.
Question, when's the last time you got a smallpox booster?
As to James Madison, our country was founded on the principle of individual liberty, inalienable constitutional rights and a limited federal government.
Look, mandates have been enforced in the past ...even our SCOTUS has given its blessing in one case
...this sort of thing is not done without serious consideration, and in the case of COVID-19 with over 750,000 lives already lost, the use of mandates has very credible support...moreover, beyond the death toll, we have seen numerous instances of entire state HC systems being overwhelmed...IMO this is a threat to the "Common Good" and warrants the use of mandates if we have another surge.
As for "Healthy People"...we've seen reports of 40 yr olds in tip-top shape dying of COVID...not a lot, but emblematic of the inability to know who is and who isn't really "Healthy"...plus the Healthy ones can still become spreaders to the vulnerable ones...in short, when dealing with communicable diseases...EVERYONE needs to get vaccinated.
This is a Public Heath issue...not a political one...btw, I'll bet Madison's wife, Dolly, would have supported mandatory vaccinations for Yellow Fever, if they were available.
Heh, look up Bill Burr's bit on Obama's wife.
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That’s some logical thinking you got going there. Similar
to when you post flu stats as a comparison to C19 numbers.
Never fails.
Are you saying covid 19 is a terminal illness? Just can't post anything without fear-mongering
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We're talking about the wisdom of letting any fatal disease take its "natural course" without
intervention...what's your stance?
They should mandate booster for the vaxxxed now instead mandate vaccine for unvaxxxed
if you ask me. The data I saw is pointing to this direction.
I against mass vaccination as a policy and personally I am skeptical on vaccine's effectiveness and safety. But the reality is most people already got vaxed and their vaccine protection is waning everyday. They need booster for this winter.
Don't know why you keep asking me for stance even my posts have always been straightforward on my stance without nonsense, very binary and of course very unacceptable to you.
Wisdom requires a long term perspective, not a kneejerk political exploitation.
No one is suggesting we should do nothing... just that we should not do what is unnecessary.
And yes... in the end COVID will be vanquished by the human immune system.
"Extending" hundreds of thousands of lives IMO is not "unnecessary"...others might agree as well.
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Here you are again. Covid is a terminal disease. Let's extend it's terminal date
for those covid-recovered people with certain natural immunity. Let's do it.
I don't really think you agree with Primum non nocere.
Vaccinating those with natural immunity is idiocy.
The hundreds of thousands of vulnerable folk would be wise to get jabbed... and boosted... probably for the rest of their lives... because COVID will be circulating until the species achieves natural immunity.
Because our authority don't believe natural immunity.
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Natural immunity is free. Big Gov and Big Pharma doesn't like that.
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Bingo! I don't blame Big Pharma. That's who they are, only looking for $. I blame Big Gov
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virus has humiliated everyone who has approached it with "science" wrapped in politics.
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The vaccine brings the death rate down to about zero
So it's just a case of public safety.
That being said the numbers are proof that stopping a corona virus is pretty much impossible.
I guess Coiln Powell was an outlier.
Oh! And it is zero for young professional unvaxed athletes and children.
Given that he had Multiple Myeloma, I'd say Colin Powell was...with his weakened immune system, even
a common cold could be life threatening.
As for the athletes and kids...the numbers are very low, but not zero...however, they CAN and WILL become spreaders to those who are vulnerable, who number in the tens of millions...so there's that...in case you were too self-centered to notice.
Conflicting studies on whether vaccines stop spread and transmission.
But if the vulnerable want to get weekly boosters, I am good with that. Also, they shouldn't be around kids right now, vaccinated or unvaccinated, so probably a moot point.
Perhaps a better word than "STOP" would be "INHIBIT" the spread of COVID-19...vaccines have never
been advertised as perfect...if we can get enough folks vaccinated...and realize an oral treatment like Pfizer's...we could be in pretty good shape in 2022...then Baron can find some other sinister plot being perpetrated by those 'Dastardly Dems' ;-).
Why not hinder, impede, constrain or prevent?
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Are you 'smoking' as you post?...this isn't making much sense.
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Sometimes.
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LOL...Party On, Garth!
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If I use the word "dude" in any context, that's probably a tell.
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And apparently fucking up the quotes...
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What's the argument for boosters then?
Or does it only temporarily bring it to zero?
This "booster" is going to become another annual shot.
Could very well be..just like the H1N1 Seasonal Flu shot people get each year, w/o complaint.
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OMG. That means your governor Newsom will disappear for 12 days every year?
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Would recommend that he get one every month then...just to be extra safe...
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Sure...he can choose whatever time works for him ;-).
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Said this 4 months ago. It's Netflix model.
"Moderna jab and chill"?
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How do we know that?
Lots of folks were asymptomatic to begin with and many of the weakest died last year.
I don't think these "vaccines" are effective at all.