TyroneIrish: "I'm losing track of how many times I've posted that quote from an Infectious Disease Specialist...you can display your exasperation as much as you'd like, but the it doesn't change the facts. The people who have reached that conclusion do this for a living...they have absolutely NO reason to 'blacklist' any drug that will work...the same protocols for testing and approval that have been in use for decades were applied to HCQ...it doesn't work."
I have Dr. Harvey Risch's research paper in my possession. Here's his summation of why TyroneIrish and the medical community are wrong. 1) There were RCTs of hydroxychloroquine/zinc/azithromycin performed on already-hospitalized patients. Results: Ineffective. 2) RCTs of h/z/a performed early on people with average age around 40. Results: No significant statistical difference in death rates. 3) RCTs of hydroxychloroquine used early without the other two drugs. Result: Ineffective.
So these are the basis for Fauci, the CDC and the FDA saying it doesn't work. Seems reasonable, right? However, as Dr. Risch points out, h/z/a must be given early to VULNERABLE patients, and NO RCTs WERE EVER PERFORMED using this scenario. None. Not a one. But, you may ask, what about #2 above? Dr. Risch points out there were no statistical differences in death rates because the relative youth of the participants meant that hardly any who used the placebo died.
But - and this is the part Fauci, the CDC and the FDA ignore - is that there is ample observational data from numerous studies showing h/z/a, when given early to VULNERABLE populations, results in approximately an 80% reduction in both hospitalizations and deaths. And why are Fauci, the CDC and the FDA ignoring these data? Because the Great Faucino, as Dr. Risch points out, has a personal medical philosophy of only accepting data from RCTs, despite the fact his own NIH website specifically states, "However, classical RCTs have substantial limitations, most notably a lack of generalizability, which limit their direct applicability to clinical practice implementation. Pragmatic and observational studies can provide an invaluable perspective into real-world applicability...Nevertheless, the privileged place of the classical RCT, even if well designed, has come into question, especially in recent years. Such studies may be just too far removed from the realities of clinical practice to be able to reliably inform it."
The fact is the medical community has botched this, big time, because of the outsized influence of Fauci. He is guilty of the greatest case of medical malpractice in this country's history...in addition to being a known and admitted liar. Had Dr. Risch been head of the NIH this whole time, we would have less than half the deaths we currently have.
Just kidding...but there are those who will have to answer some serious questions for just such a scam (see link). There are many more reports of malfeasance if you'd like to continue shining a spotlight on the AFLD and its associates...your choice.
Link: https://medika.life/americas-frontline-doctors-face-long-overdue-medical-and-legal-censure/
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Way to expose their utter ignorance and malfeasance and such.
PM me your email address and it's done.
Neither should you.
You and Tyrone are 100% wrong on this. What are you afraid of if you read it?
or, are you afraid to face the charges being leveled.
Link: https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/
There are charlatans in every walk of life. "Dr." Fauci is chief among them.
Anyway, it doesn't negate the fact that virtually every observational trial shows h/z/a to be highly effective if given early to vulnerable patients. This is the part that you and other hyddroxychloroquine detractors cannot get around.
disappointed that you give such claims of efficacy 'oxygen'...and hope that you are in no way involved with such shady schemes.
In case you have only been reading Dr. Risch's material, the attached link will give you some insight into why his arguments didn't carry the day...you need to get over it...assuming you have no financial involvement.
Link: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/who-strongly-against-hydroxychloroquine-use-for-covid-19-prevention
It kills people, if you maybe recently noticed.
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attached link...you've certainly got Dr. Risch, however...gotta give you that.
Further discussion on this topic invites Mark Twain's cautionary statement..."Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference".
Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33165621/
the treatment on those risk people who would otherwise be hospitalized without any treatment.
Covid virus itself doesn't do much harm to you. It is your one or multiple organs' overreactions after the virus is gone that hurt you, damage you, hospitalize you and even kill you. At that stage HCQ certainly doesn't work. What we were talking about is early stage, i.e. you, risk people, have running nose or fever this morning and went to have a test with a positive result. You should start treatments with those meds (BTW, it is not single medicine treatment). Some doctors already developed early treatment protocol. One doctor in TX has early treated over 1,500 covid patients, prevent 85% of them from going to hospital. Another doc in CA has treated over 2,700 covid patients.
You linked to a study of already hospitalized patients, and not only that, only hydroxychloroquine was used. Try again.
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The trials alleging h/z/a to be ineffective were performed on already-hospitalized patients or those whose age were so low that there were no statistical differences, or used hydroxychloroquine only. As I stated there have been ZERO RCTs on vulnerable patients given the three-drug combo h/z/a well before potential hospitalization is necessary. But every bit of observational data we have when used in the latter case shows it to be about 80-85% effective, as Dr. Risch's paper points out.
So tell me, what is the rationale for saying h/z/a never works at any time? Ask yourself, does this actually make any sense? Everyone on this board is fairly intelligent (with the possible exception of myself according to LanceHarbor) and anyone can clearly see the trials saying it doesn't work are not parallel to the way proponents say it should be used. It frustrates Dr. Risch (and also Dr. George Fareed, former professor of medicine at Harvard and UCLA) to no end but he believes the Great Fauchino's personal medical philosophy is the issue. And make no mistake - his influence over the CDC and FDA is enormous.
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I will make you the same offer I made to Chris. PM me your email address and I will send you Dr. Risch's paper.
Probably prudent to cut your losses re your proffered COVID expertise.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=572064
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CNN medical professionals came out against it.