on the topic that explains your view perhaps?
Or if you do or don’t feel it’s legitimate and I missed the answer, could you answer again please?
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I looked at the earlier thread where you first mentioned this...aside from the fact that it made no sense, it certainly didn't have anything to do with what I was asking Stark about...i.e. if he can - as he said he did - accept Gays and Lesbians living without discrimination, since they mean no harm to others, then why not expand that 'acceptance' to others on the "Sexual Identity Spectrum" who also have no desire to harm others.
You then jumped in the middle of our conversation with a total "Non-Sequitur" ...frankly, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the fundamental questions I posed to Stark, but I'm not holding my breath...so again, explain what it is you want to talk about...as clearly as you can.
You try to deflect to how we got here which isn’t nearly as important as what we might have here.
I framed the discussion on you in the same way you had framed the discussion with StarkRavingDad, the topic was related, but intentionally went in a different direction from what you wanted (as you had done to SRD). Surprisingly however, it potentially unearthed something that is disturbing to me. Thus, how we got here is no longer relevant compared to what we might have here.
If you are worried that there is a trap laid for you if you answer no, there s not. I already know your politics, but I am plumbing the depths of your radicalism.
Do you condemn pedophilia and minor attraction of all types - homosexual, heterosexual,etc?
...reading your "justification" shows me that the only intent you had was to INSULT me...
Since you refused to rephrase your question and make it clear what it was you were getting at, I did some board searching on "Minor Attraction"...that most likely has to do with the Old Dominion University professor who is transgender and harbored some very strange thoughts on pedophilia...thoughts that virtually the entire university - including the LGBTQ community - STRONGLY REPUDIATED...AS DO I, and most likely 99.9999999% of not just Americans, but the World. For you to harbor the notion that I would support that professor's opinions is, in a word...DESPICABLE.
Given that you did ask the question...I hold no hope of you ever apologizing...you'll just 're-load' and search for some other means of venting your frustration with me for trying to offer truthful interpretations of your posts.
Your "Question" is answered...what isn't answered is WHY you posed it in the first place
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As you mentioned, there are those who define it differently. I asked you about "minor attraction" because I wanted to know if it was included that in your definition of a Sexual Identity "Spectrum" that you mentioned. While your lack of an answer had the potential to leave an impression,
the follow up clarification question did provide you with an opportunity to clarify your stance. I'm glad you took that opportunity, but I am not expecting any thanks.
paint me as the "culprit"...this whole fiasco of yours could have been avoided if you came right out and followed my lead to Stark regarding expanding one's level of "Acceptance" beyond just Gays and Lesbians no longer being charged as criminals...rather than PERSONALIZING the issue with a blatant innuendo targeted at me.
If you want me to accept your post as the best apology you can muster and stop inferring that I "might be" a pedophile sympathizer, then we can discuss the issue of how to deal with the other letters beyond "LG..."...otherwise, I'll see you on some other thread...with a more appropriate level of "respect".
...I asked a straight forward Q for you to answer yes or no in your own words - no innuendo. I honestly wanted to know your answer. As you saw from what you mentioned in previous posts, you could see that there are people (university professors even) who include "minor attraction" in their sexual identity spectrum and that this has been brought up on this board before. I asked, you wouldn't answer which led to some wondering why that was....I asked again. It is beyond me why you would not have simply answered this "no" right from the start.
Regardless, I have a question for you regarding your question to StarkRavingDad:
Stark was wondering why we were not able to simply acknowledge the genetic fact of being male or female, and you responded by asking him the following:
"Are you in favor of making homosexuality a criminal offense like it was in the UK when Alan Turing was cracking the Nazi's enigma code and advancing computer theory".
By your own reasoning, how is this not inferring that StarRavingDad might be a homophobic hater? Why do you not see in yourself what you see in others?
(For the record by the way, I am absolutely against any law that criminalizes homosexual behavior - I am more than willing to answer that if you are wondering).
I asked my question in sincerity, and in fact, when you wouldn't answer the simple yes or no question, I didn't just assume that you wouldn't denounce "minor attraction" at that point. I asked you again. One solution to reaching limits with a poster is to put them on the "ignore" list. I don't do it lightly, but I didn't want to spend time interacting with anyone who supported a concept that I find particularly abhorrent. Again, I am glad that you finally simply answered the question, and your response is the reason that I did not "ignore" you. I was not inferring or trying to paint you as a culprit - I was asking for you to tell me your stance. Do you think Stark should feel that you were inferring that he wants homosexuals thrown in jail because of your question to him, or that you were painting him as a culprit who wants to imprison homosexuals? If not, then why do you feel that way about my inquiry?
Regardless of your answer, I was not inferring, I was asking And I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you didn't answer. If you feel that you are at your limit despite this, then i am fully understanding if you wish to put me on your "ignore" list which is every posters right.
were now missing from the thread...the ones where you went off on a rant about how passionate you were in combating pedophilia and wanted to be sure you weren't conversing with someone (me) who harbored positive feelings to such people...if that's not a personal innuendo toward me, I don't know what is...underscoring my observation are these words which you failed to remove...
"Do you condemn pedophilia and minor attraction of all types - homosexual, heterosexual,etc?"...As I said to you, there is no way I'd ever assume someone else harbored such despicable thoughts, yet you have NO PROBLEM addressing that "LOADED QUESTION" to me...that's what got me annoyed...and other posters noted it as well.
With regard to Stark, you're leaving out too much...I was able to gain his "Acceptance" that Gay and Lesbian behavior shouldn't be criminalized...as it once was in the mid-20th century in England...that was progress...so I asked him if he could envision expanding that progress to others whose behaviors were outside the 'median' of the sexual identity spectrum...also, I specifically noted the condition that in all of those cases it was assumed that those individuals had no desire to harm anyone else (e.g. pedophilia)...so it's a total fabrication for you to accuse me (again) of inferring he was a "homophobic hater"...instead, I saw his willingness to NOT BE a hater with Gays and Lesbians as a basis for more discussion and understanding of others on the "Spectrum) (e.g. Transgenders, Queers..etc.)....as I was hoping to do with you.
Bottom line to all of this...you would never ask someone you were having a conversation with, to their face, if they harbored pedophilia sympathies...yet you did it to me...and that's disgusting. You are who you are...face up to it...maybe even go to confession and apologize there.
As for the past, let's leave the words where they are...
btw, the 'ignore' feature definitely works for others...I don't use it.
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Truly reckless and sinister posting by you and Baron.
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ND affiliation...family status...basically, who is "ColeyO"? I, btw, have posted quite a bit about myself in all of those areas, as have many others...it sure would help to understand more about who this person is I'm exchanging thoughts and opinions with.
I do find it interesting that you replied to me, when my post was directed at your doppelganger, conor. Strange indeed
your post started with..."Sorry if it bothers u. Tyrone."...so I felt as though I was "invited" ;-).
additionally, it is an unlawful obstruction of another party’s access to evidence, including a witness, or unlawfully alter, destroy or conceal a document or other material having potential evidentiary value.
The question stands.
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That poster and I are on opposite sides of the political aisle, but we agree completely that pedophilia is a loathesome and evil thing. I try to avoid blocking people, but I would certainly do so to anyone who is not willing to condemn this heinous crime. I’m not talking about any particular case, just the principle.
Political difference are fine, but I will not interact with anyone not willing to have this lowest baseline level of morality.
would cause normal people to come the conclusion he's in full support of this heinous practice
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