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If Lakers win tonight does it give credence to Tim Donaghy's allegatiions?

Author: JarHead4ND (3132 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:02 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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Or is he just looking for a reduced sentence?

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No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.

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Thread Level: 2

They just discussed FT

Author: Slacker (7011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:23 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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Celtics a ton at home

now

Lakers a ton at home

NBA=WWF


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Boston FT margin: +7 in Game 1, +17 in Game 2, -12 in Game 3. A total joke of a sport at this point.

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jun 11, 2008
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I believe it was +26 for Boston in game 2

Author: Rocket91 (5311 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:13 pm on Jun 11, 2008
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It's fixed. Who would you say has the worst tattoos?

Author: TontoGoldstein (11011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:31 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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If you support Obama you are a racist.
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no...

Author: Jack Daniels (1473 Posts - Joined: Oct 2, 1997)

Posted at 10:07 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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If the fix was in favoring the Lakers, you would not have seen that disparity in game two.

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TD's allegations didn't have anything to do with favoring one team over the other

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:29 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Donaghy said the league encouraged refs to fix games to ensure a series went seven games, thereby maximizing revenue. The league made sure Boston held serve at home, and now LA will miraculously do the same.

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I thought he's alleged that the outcome of two series (in 2002 and 2005) were fixed by the refs.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (23245 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:00 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Outcome of one game in 2002 was fixed to force a Game 7, per AP article...

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:35 am on Jun 11, 2008
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NBA referees, influenced by league officials, rigged a 2002 playoff series to force it to a revenue-boosting seven games, a former referee at the center of a gambling sandal alleged Tuesday ... In one of several allegations of corrupt refereeing, Donaghy said he learned in May 2002 that two referees known as "company men" were working a series in which "Team 5" was leading 3-2. In the sixth game, he alleged the referees called "made-up fouls on Team 5 to give additional free throw opportunities for Team 6."

The thing is, only one series went seven games that year: Lakers-Kings. And it plays out EXACTLY according to Donaghy's allegations. Kings were up 3-2 in the series. Lakers won Game 6 106-102 after shooting 27 free throws in the final quarter and scoring 16 of their last 18 points at the charity stripe. At the time Ralph Nader and a sports watchdog group called the League of Fans actually wrote Stern a letter complaining of the Game 6 officiating.


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Thanks. (Was going by what I heard on sports radio last night.)

Author: TakethetrainKnute (23245 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:03 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Read another article where Donaghy alleged manipulation in a 2005 series as well

Author: McSweeney (17753 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:21 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Donaghy also alleges manipulation during a 2005 playoff series.

"Team 3 lost the first two games in the series and Team 3's owner complained to NBA officials," Donaghy alleged. "Team 3's owner alleged that referees were letting a Team 4 player get away with illegal screens. NBA Executive Y told Referee Supervisor Z that the referees for that game were to enforce the screening rules strictly against that Team 4 player. ...

"The referees followed the league's instructions and Team 3 came back from behind to win the series. The NBA benefited from this because it prolonged the series, resulting in more tickets sold and more televised games."



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Mavs-Rockets I believe. That is the series where Van Gundy got fined a $100,000

Author: Uncle Jemima (4113 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jun 11, 2008
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for publicly stating that an NBA official gave him the heads up that they were planning on officiating Yao Ming differently. The series went seven games as the Mavs came back from an 0-2 hole to win the series.
I don't remember the Mavs-Rockets series too well, however the Kings Lakers series was a travesty. I remember getting physically ill watching that game, because we always joked that games were fixed or made NBA-WWF comparisons, but there it was right before our eyes; proof. After that series, I have never viewed the NBA the same it has gone from #1 to probably #6 or #7.


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That was the worst-officiated game I've ever seen that didn't involve Notre Dame.

Author: jakers (9698 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:44 am on Jun 11, 2008
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JD, have you noticed the Lakers have gotten more free throws this game?

Author: Bettis6 (1444 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:25 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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....and have you noticed that they forced their offense into the paint more?

Ya see, there's a correlation.

Kobe's full of shit. He's taken into the paint more in the first half of this game then he did throughout both games in Boston. He took threes and fade-aways in games one and two.

Just admit it.


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Re: JD, have you noticed the Lakers have gotten more free throws this game?

Author: STLRamFan1 (92 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:13 am on Jun 11, 2008
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and Kobe got handchecked all over the court in Boston with nary a call while Pierce was given any call for any kind of contact (most if being from him a la D. Wade in 2005).

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Kobe and Pierce both went to the line seven times in game two....

Author: Bettis6 (1444 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:17 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Get over it dude.

Unlike you, I'm going to accept this loss and move on to the next game.


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Re: Kobe and Pierce both went to the line seven times in game two....

Author: STLRamFan1 (92 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:48 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Pierce 'drew' 16 fouls in Boston compared to Kobe's 9. Don't start with this more aggressive BS either. The celtic defenders are allowed to handcheck at will. It must be pretty easy to get over it when you get a game handed to you. Just read Bill Simmons column on ESPN about the way most Bostoners were feeling going into game 3.

Thread Level: 6

I feel like I did after game 1

Author: Rocket91 (5311 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:35 am on Jun 11, 2008
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There isn't too much to take from this game other than we now know the Lakers are capable of beating the Celtics. They had been 0-4 so far this year, hopefully from an LA perspective there was a mental hurdle that was overcome tonight. But, Thursday is a must win as is Sunday, lots still to do for LA.

Thread Level: 4

I've also noticed that two of the Lakers starters each had 3 fouls in the first 13:30....

Author: Jack Daniels (1473 Posts - Joined: Oct 2, 1997)

Posted at 10:29 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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This game has way more of an "aggressive" argument than game two does.

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In fairness, one of those starters is Vlade

Author: Rocket91 (5311 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:44 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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Any decent player can get him in foul trouble, Vlade isn't the brightest character out there. If he ever guarded Kobe he'd never be on the court due to fouls. Hell he's barely on the court now.

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Re: In fairness, one of those starters is Vlade

Author: STLRamFan1 (92 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:15 am on Jun 11, 2008
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I loved the third foul on him...he simply grabbed the ball simultaneously with Perkins and picks up a foul.

Thread Level: 6

In fairness, Gasol & Odom need to pull their head out*

Author: Jack Daniels (1473 Posts - Joined: Oct 2, 1997)

Posted at 10:46 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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Well that never happened, but Kobe and Sasha saved them

Author: Rocket91 (5311 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:01 am on Jun 11, 2008
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Of course tonight means nothing if they lose Thursday. If Pau and Lamar don't get this figured out, they have no chance.

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Yeah, for the Lakers this game....

Author: Bettis6 (1444 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 pm on Jun 10, 2008
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The Celtics were very agressive in Game 2, not so much tongight. Have you noticed that the Celtics have settling for jumpers more this game, thus less free thows.

Actually, I just ran the numbers on Kobe in game one and two. One ESPN, I checked out the shot charts. Kobe took only two shots in the paint in game one, and a total of four in game two. I'd guess he's got at least that many tonight.

Again, I'm not saying that the refs didn't whistle a few calls in game two for the Lakers, but the idea that Lakers got robbed of 20 free throws is total bullshit.


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