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What does Germany do for energy if Russia invades Ukraine. Merkle like most socialists is dumb as a

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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brick. Why in hell would you put your energy future in Putin’s hands. Like Biden now begging OPEC and Russia to open the spigots.

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Well they could burn recalled auto parts and such.

Author: iairishcheeks (27170 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:06 am on Dec 6, 2021
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I think the answer is they let Ukraine fall to Russia.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:15 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Or, they rely on the US to supply them while they fight Russia in another world war.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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They have no choice with their radical green goals. Green party policy has been controlling Germany

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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But, Germany is going to be worse in post-Merkle era. They're turning far left now even Merkle has not packed her office yet.

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Fact check: false. Merkel’s party is center-right.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:20 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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You checked label, not fact. No party on right would abandon nuclear power as she did

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:10 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Shut down all 17 nuclear power stations on 2022. Did I say 17? Only crazy radical Green activists want doing this. Her party CDU's 16 years reign basically implemented a moderate version of Germany's green social democracy.

The devil is in the details of what have been done, not on the label. Don't be superficial.


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Why would Russia invade Ukraine?

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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It makes no sense to me at all.

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Ask if it makes sense to Putin.

Author: NedoftheHill (44672 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:07 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Ukraine has deep cultural, economic and political bonds with Russia. Many Russian speakers there. It was the second most powerful and populous state in the USSR (the first being Russia). It held much of the USSR's agricultural production, defense industries, and military, including the Black Sea Fleet. Ukraine's decision to sever ties with the USSR in 1991 started the dominoes falling for the end of the USSR.

But, Ukraine has been moving more and more towards the west, and wants to be a part of the EU, and of NATO. A westernized Ukraine leaving the Russian sphere and becoming a part of the EU is considered a destabilizing threat to Russia. And, reuniting Ukraine with Russia would bring Putin one step closer to restoring the greatness of the Russia in a form similar to the Soviet Union. (He already has Belarus pretty much under his control.)

Will he do it? Of course. He has already done it once. Russia now holds two huge sections of Ukraine, and the West did nothing, in violation of the promises the West gave Ukraine when Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons to Russia. (As an aside: You know that North Korea and Iran were watching that...and how Obama abandoned Qaddafi after Qaddafi surrendered his nuke program to George Bush.)

Will he go further? Who knows? If China moves on Taiwan, Russia may believe it can move on Ukraine safely. Again, who knows?


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Good interview on Fareed Zakaria's show today with former Supreme Allied Commander Europe,

Author: TyroneIrish (20447 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:26 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Admiral James Stavridis, who speculated that one possibility could be Putin's perceived need to have a "land bridge" to Crimea by not taking over all of Ukraine, but rather just the eastern segment of the country that is fairly heavily populated with Russian sympathizers...any other part of Ukraine would be a blood bath for him (not to say he wouldn't try)...stay tuned for more reports on the scheduled call between Biden and Putin next Tuesday.

Another theory discussed was the possibility of Putin "Saber Rattling" to dissuade Ukraine from going 'All In' on NATO membership...again, a likely topic on Tuesday's Zoom call.


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I've been to Ukraine and Putin would be foolish to invade.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 8:09 am on Dec 6, 2021
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Yes, Eastern Ukraine has a lot of Russian sympathizers who are descendants of the Russians who Stalin relocated there after he starved half the country to death.

They do want continued relations with Russia, especially economic, but are not crazy about Putin.

Above all they do not want war.

Western Ukraine is another animal altogether and if Putin tried to conquer Kiev it would be holy hell.

These folks can get very violent.


Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbe9nhkxyC8

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Why are there 100k troops on the boarder. Ask XI why he would invade Taiwan.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:23 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Neither thing has happened.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:32 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Seriously, how does it benefit Russian interests to invade Ukraine?

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because no one can answer your question doesn't mean it isn't so.

Author: Hank the Tank (9413 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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the Russians want the Ukraine because it once it. There is not can be done about it.
they want it, they'll take it. it makes them feel important. we don't them to take Ukraine. that is enough for them.
Europe is has to be considered. .


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True, Hank. It could happen tomorrow.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 10:01 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Just doesn't seem to advance any rational agenda. Putin is an asshole, not a moron.

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What are talking about there a satellite photos of troops on the Ukraine border. Are you deft?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:39 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Russia has not invaded Ukraine. China has not invaded Taiwan.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:46 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Neither thing has happened.

I see no reason that either invasion makes sense. You seem to think it is imminent.

Give me a reason that it makes sense for Russia to invade Ukraine. What would Russia gain from that versus what they would lose?

I mean, maybe it will happen tomorrow, but I would like to know why Russia would think it was a good move. You seem to have ideas. Share?


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Satellite photos of Russian Troops

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:43 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Link: https://images.app.goo.gl/4iB9VvzHsV434L9q8

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I am not disputing that.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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See above.

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Why the troops on the Ukraine border why the invasion of Taiwan air space?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:04 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Intimidation, I guess.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:49 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:21 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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Side with Russia, of course. They are the leftists that American liberals aspire to be. Idiots.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59932 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:46 pm on Dec 5, 2021
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