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DNC lawsuit against Russia, Wikileaks and Trump!

Author: Curly1918 (16452 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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A fund raising ploy, a discovery fishing expedition, a campaign ploy, and/or a sign of desperation that Mueller isn't finding anything? Probably all of the foregoing. It's also going to be a prime example of legal realism in action, as they've selected a forum in which their case will get a lot of traction from a friendly judge... only to get smacked down in the long run by a Trump appointed Supreme Court.

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Lawsuit against Russia? DNC are making u.s. a laughingstock in the world.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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On the surface it seems a bit silly to me.

Author: Rooney (5917 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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But I'll confess I haven't read the details.

I'll be curious to see if the DNC is suing Hillary for not campaigning in Wisconsin.


"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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That was the Russians doing.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:52 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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The DNC is doing it so I just assume it’ll be a dumpster fire.

Author: Rocket91 (5315 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:48 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Yup

Author: Fisher01 (6461 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:39 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Should have more than John Does 1-10.

Author: Rooster (2970 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:19 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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What were the biggest 5 problems when Trump was elected? ISIS, NK, Economy, Immigration,China Trade

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:30 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Check, check, check, improved & trying to check, and check.

The Dems challenge is to try to make everyone feel bad despite all of the good going on around them. This is just part of that never ending search to find the answer.
Next thing you know, they will be complaining about the Koch Brothers again.


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Criminal cases often have parallel civil suits.

Author: conorlarkin (21017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:46 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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A company can be criminally prosecuted in connection with environmental crimes, yet sued civilly for damages as a result of the alleged wrongdoing.

I loved the racketeering allegations. Rock on, DNC!!


Link: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/the-dncs-lawsuit-against-the-russian-government-trump-campaign-and-wikileaks/2914/

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As an aside, I've been meaning to tell you...

Author: Rooney (5917 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:37 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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I could totally see you being on a taint team.

I mean this as a compliment.


"I didn't come here to take part. I came here to take over."
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Didn't the DNC refuse to turn over their server to the FBI for eval & protection? Do you see

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:40 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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anything that might be a bit problematic with this as it relates to their suit, hmm? (Don't misunderstand, you could find a lawyer to argue that you are a Hannity conservative, so I know that they will try to explain this away, but the DNC refused help after being made aware of the problem, gee I wonder why?).

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Maybe they can get the election overturned. That would be interesting!

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:05 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Narrator: No one was actually trying to have the election results overturned.

Author: Chris94 (36756 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Disappointing.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The want this story to continue after Mueller fails.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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If true, should it be? The complaint is pretty specific. The discovery would be a blast to take

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:08 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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against those clowns.

Thread Level: 5

Bernie will be fascinated with the discovery served on the DNC!

Author: Curly1918 (16452 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:00 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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This is a pandora's box for everyone except the cable news networks who will have their scripts written for as long as discovery continues

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So both the DNC and Orange are damaged? Called a win win.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:02 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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And the suit was filed in federal court in Manhattan -- where he is King.

Author: conorlarkin (21017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Hence, Trump should easily be able to defend this civil suit. Right??

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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The complaint is well done, and covers the bases. They finessed some standing issues well.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:30 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Also, the usual suspects seem to be more than even usual perturbed by it. That’s a good sign.

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Assigned SDNY Judge = former Watergate prosecutor

Author: conorlarkin (21017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:34 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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White guy (non Hispanic). Trump will love him!

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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How are they prohibited? They can ask for a forensic inspection by a third party

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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that they retain. Or a special master. I have served in that role in a case.

Stop prattering.


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So, you can actually delete this post, and then paste the content where you actually want it to be.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Go on........or I can type what I typed.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:12 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Directed to Cole below.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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I think discovery is a primary reason. Two can play at that game. What a waste.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Do you want to answer the question. You have any problem with it if the allegations are true?

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Or did something that Hillary or the D’s did make it okay to have engaged in that conduct?

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Recite the allegations, and I will tell you what I think of them.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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I closed the complaint, and I don't feel like looking for it again.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Cowardly dodge. You just read them.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Skimmed them. I already gave my judgement of them. You now ask for reconsideration.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:25 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Make your case. Oh, and don't dodge. You want me to look them up again, but you won't do it yourself.

Believe me, this is far more important to you. If you don't care enough to do it, imagine how much more I don't care.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I asked you a simple question. If it turns out that the allegations of that complaint are true, do

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:31 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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you have a problem with such conduct? Yes or no? You have never answered that question and are dodging it.

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All of the above, plus a request for order that the Feds not investigate the DNC servers...

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:21 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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...and not publish whatever they become aware of. Kind of weird: GIve us damages, but don't investigate the harm that we say we suffer. Would love to hear some litigators weigh in on this. Seems like a comical lawsuit.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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That’s not what it requests. It requests an injunction against the defendants from acessessing

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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the servers. Nowhere goes it mention the federal government being enjoined from doing so.

Thread Level: 4

They should have gotten that court order in 2016. Would have solved everything.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:08 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yeah they should have anticipated the scum they were running against would use Russia

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:18 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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for a full court Nixonesque cyber theft.

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I'll be moving on now, Frank. See if you can get someone else sucked in to a conversation with you.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Not sure "conversation" is the right word. "Sucked' certainly is.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I don't miss Basil either...

Author: iairishcheeks (27174 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:00 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Indeed.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 12:28 pm on Apr 21, 2018
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Slurp.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:21 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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You're just jealous.

Author: iairishcheeks (27174 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:34 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Nevermind.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:39 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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Struck a nerve, eh?

Author: iairishcheeks (27174 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:40 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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You struck my “I don’t care about you” bone.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:55 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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I rarely respond to any of your posts.

Ned on the other hand, I don’t agree with and argue with a lot. But I read and have an interest in responding to him. You, not so much.


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But how much do you not care?

Author: iairishcheeks (27174 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:18 am on Apr 21, 2018
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I wouldn't worry about it.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:14 pm on Apr 21, 2018
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Are you kind?
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Don’t go away mad Ned.....but if you can’t respond I know why you need to go away.

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:32 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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So sue the defendants, but prevent them from defending the lawsuit?

Author: Cole (16189 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 3:07 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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It is a publicity stunt. I'd be pissed if I were a judge and got this.

Author: NedoftheHill (44682 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:12 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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But, I'm sure they ran it by the judge first.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Of course you are because you are a pure partisan. Wanna bet on whether it survives a Rule 12 Motion

Author: Frank L (64690 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:13 pm on Apr 20, 2018
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