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shots for everyone and be sure to hide the research while you’re at it

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:40 am on Dec 20, 2021
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Link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/12/20/nz-mans-death-may-be-linked-to-myocarditis-from-pfizers-covid-vaccine.html

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Thread Level: 2

Trump admits that he got his "Booster Shot"...any comment?

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Link: https://youtu.be/Eojlx8GAGCM

Thread Level: 3

Um...good for him? He's always been pro-vax. I'm pro-choice on the booster.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:24 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Granted, the Left wants to limit choice by controlling which facts are published and which are not (e.g., doctors refusing to label the side effects, mask studies being faked). I don't approve of that. I would rather the facts be disclosed, and people allowed to make informed choices, instead of guessing as best they can what is right for them.

I was all set to get the booster recently, but then we had someone get covid in my house, and I decided to wait until we were clear of covid at the house...and by then, a friend developed a horrible side effect that has caused me to re-evaluate the booster. Still re-evaluating.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Being 'dead' serious here, Ned...watch the first few minutes of the UCSF Grand Rounds video I posted

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:20 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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and see how you have virtually ZERO protection from Omicron without the mRNA booster shot...make sure all the adults in your family get boosted NOW...Omicron is coming on fast (doubling in 1.5-3 days) and you don't have much time left...clearly, someone was able to get that through Trump's thick skull.

I'll be posting more CDC info on this...just got a sobering text from our ID Doc with disturbing trend info...let's just stop with the politics for a moment...we've got a serious problem brewing...in case you missed it, Britain just reported 7 deaths from Omicron...I guarantee you that number will rise substantially...just wait until Omicron gets to 'visit' all our our U.S. unvaccinated 'targets'.


Thread Level: 5

Your description of the video doesn't address my concern.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:39 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Some of the side effects are worse than catching the disease.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

The uncertainly of it’s impact is my concern. 30% are ripe for picking and much more if the need for

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:38 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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the booster is there. The only real question is the severity of impact and how big the tidal wave will be. If the impact on the unvaxxed and un boostered is severe it could be a grim outcome. We reap what we sow. Even Orange was pretty clear about the need for the shots.

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Thread Level: 3

Sure. Biden sucks and you're a snitch. Thank Ty, I feel better.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 3:19 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
Thread Level: 4

LOL...This little "Meme" of yours is hilarious...seriously, WHO did I "snitch" to?...about WHAT? ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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You refuse to answer my question..."How does an anonymous and supposedly innocent poster (Hint: BVZ) feel "threatened" by anyone?"...what's the mechanism to pull that off?

Meanwhile, the driving force behind all the objections to COVID fighting measures ("It's a Hoax"..."I always wanted to 'Slow Play It"..."No need for Masks or Social Distancing"..."I probably won't get a Booster shot"...)...has admitted that he's done all he could to save HIMSELF (i.e. he got vaxxed and boosted)....screw all the millions who followed his lead...is he donating any of his supposed billions to their memorial funds?...DT is a malignant narcissist with zero empathy for anyone but himself...even his own son couldn't call him on Jan. 6th...despicable.


Thread Level: 5

I should save my derision for grown assed men who type "LOL"?

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Tattletale.

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"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
Thread Level: 6

Can't answer, can you?...on with your 'meme'...

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:29 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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For a while there, I thought you had substance...not so sure anymore.

Thread Level: 7

I got substance the size of bowling balls.

Author: Stark Raving Dad (5192 Posts - Joined: Aug 19, 2020)

Posted at 9:36 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Not sure what I'd do if I thought we're not friends. A person who threatens the livelihood of another man on a message board.

"It’s always a wonder how you all are experts in everything." jimbasil 6/26/2022
Thread Level: 8

I was speaking 'intellectual' substance...you went 'physical'...it's worse than I thought...

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:10 am on Dec 21, 2021
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enjoy your 'meme'...I"m now sure who I'm dealing with.

Thread Level: 3

what do you want me to say? I have no issue with anyone getting a shot. If you want to do PCP, I

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:04 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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really don't care. I'm vaccinated but I don't think it means a whole lot.

Thread Level: 4

Speaking of choices, are you OK with litterbugs? People who dodge paying their taxes?

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:51 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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People who cut in line?

People who don't shower or bathe before coming to the office?

People who don't take care of their lawn or who let trash pile up?

*******

Folks who refuse to get vaccinated are far worse than any of the above.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 5

those things impact me. I'm not convinced my vaccination has much of an impact on anything other

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:57 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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than your piece of mind.

Thread Level: 6

That is the typical current GOP mindset. Only what directly impacts me. This situation could impact

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:10 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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all of society and the economy if enough people get seriously ill. Sadly, this could be mostly behind us or at least be a manageable situation, if about 30% of our fellow citizens weren’t absolute morons.

Thread Level: 7

Exactly. They do not care that hospitals and staff are overwhelmed during the holidays.

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:52 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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The easy fix is to not admit unvaccinated patients. Let them fend for themselves.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 8

The easy fix is to renege on the Hippocratic Oath?

Author: wrdomerson (2265 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:55 pm on Dec 21, 2021
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I thought a marine would have stronger convictions about keeping an oath.

Thread Level: 9

Fair point. Renege no, but I would treat vaxxed first if given the choice.

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:59 pm on Dec 21, 2021
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Thread Level: 8

I have no problem with that.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:59 am on Dec 21, 2021
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Thread Level: 8

Racist.

Author: notredame678 (3732 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)

Posted at 10:18 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Jersey Sucks!
Thread Level: 4

I'm confused here...you got your shots (hopefully mRNA type), ostensibly to protect yourself first,

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:22 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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and maybe to help inhibit the spread of the virus...why on earth wouldn't you be doing all you could to advise others to do the same?...is there some greater good in down-playing vaccinations for others?...makes zero sense to me...unless you just enjoy throwing "stink bombs" in lavatories and watching the chaos that follows :-).

These posts of yours are totally non-productive.


Thread Level: 5

I got my shot only because I knew it would become a requirement in places.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:23 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Thread Level: 6

LOL!...Whatever it takes...thanks for joining the "In Crowd" ;-)

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:48 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Thread Level: 2

“Despite the rare side effects, the vaccine safety board said the benefits of vaccination greatly

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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outweighed the risk.” 800 thousand dead Americans and counting, yet you guys focus on this. There have been millions of doses of the vax’s given and serious side effects remain rare.

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Thread Level: 3

True, it's a horrible tragedy. I just don't think the vaccines do much and believe natural immunity

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:30 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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is being established. Unfortunately, I don't think that will ever take hold, because there is too much gain to be made politically by frightening everyone. Omicron is basically the common cold, but we're going to shut down the world again. Covid is going to be here with us for a long, long, long time regardless of vaccination.

Thread Level: 4

Natural immunity works even less against this than the vax of which you need a triple dose.

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:38 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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You have no idea if this is the common cold for unvaxxed and even unboosted people. It likely is if you have the boost. It does seem to be filling up hospitals in Europe where most aren’t boosted. Even your Orange Leader is triple vaxxed and your cohorts are booing him over it.

Thread Level: 2

NZ has 2 confirmed deaths from the vaccine and population of 5 million. We have 330 mil people

Author: Cole (16197 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:53 am on Dec 20, 2021
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and I can't find a reliable source for the number of vaccine-caused deaths likely because the CDC is slow-rolling the number or not even conducting a serious investigation. All I know is that 20,000 vaccine-caused deaths have been reported to the VAERS database.

If I am a healthy middle-aged male at no risk of dying from COVID, then why would I take a booster that seems to target men?


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Thread Level: 3

Mere anecdote, but seems doctors are reluctant to tie side effects to vaccine.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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They are just unexplained symptoms in the system.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

plague rat

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Thread Level: 2

Let’s go Brandon!

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:38 am on Dec 20, 2021
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Thread Level: 2

I'm more concerned with long-term effects

Author: MarkHarman (7286 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 am on Dec 20, 2021
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Research shows leaky vaccines promote virus mutation into more virulent variants, not to mention individual long-term harm.

I'm vaccinated, boostered and in the Pfizer trial, but I'm beginning to think we might be making a horrible and tragic long-term mistake.


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One of long term effects I am concerned is so-called original antigenic sin (OAS).

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:00 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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The first flu shot in your childhood, or if you're like me who didn't have flu shot in childhood, the first flu you get is important to your immune system.

The immune response which is first established either through flu shot or flu we caught continues to characterize us throughout our life. Our immune mechanisms are conditioned and primed by the first stimulus we get (either flu shot or flu, whichever comes first). This is the reason why many times the flu shots don't work when influenza contains a novel strain. These flu shots are powerless to redirect our immune systems against the novel influenza strains. This is called original antigenic sin.

The point here is that the first shot is important. You don't want your immune system to be primed/conditioned with a leaky and flawed vaccine. It is not good for your future even this vaccine provides antibody which gives you temporary protection. Antibody protection is secondary protection and temporary protection. The most important immunity of your immune system is immunity from T cell and B cell which current vaccines are unable to do that.


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Thread Level: 4

I, for one, really wish you'd do more research before posting half-truths and speculations, when

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:36 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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others have already done work to address the issue...as with this case of "OAS" (see link)

Just recently you posted about "ADE" (Antibody-dependent Enhancement) and I had to direct you to a response that you could have found had you just put fingers to keyboard.

From multiple posts of yours, it's clear you have a mission to sow doubt in a successful vaccination program (e.g. ICUs are populated with unvaccinated patients)...that's too bad, but folks like you do exist and need to be dealt with...I'm glad to pitch in.


Link: https://endpts.com/will-original-antigenic-sin-undermine-omicron-boosters-new-research-suggests-no/

Thread Level: 5

Anyone saying any long term concern has been addressed is not just a liar, a stupid liar

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:04 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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Or he is a dementia patient like his president, has no sense of time. A future 5 year's, 10 year's or 20 year's concern can be addressed without spending 5 year's, 10 year's or 20 year to observe it. Yes, only liar or dementia patient can say that.

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Thread Level: 6

Eli, for heavens sake...read the article, if you haven't yet...the scientific community SPECIFICALLY

Author: TyroneIrish (20572 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 5:16 pm on Dec 20, 2021
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investigated for the potential of OAS and took steps to avoid that eventuality...meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are being saved by those very vaccines just in the U.S....you need to show an analysis that compels one to forego the vaccines and wait "X" number of years for some other choice...good luck!

Thread Level: 3

don't worry, the government will be absolved from any responsibility, and they'll be sure to put the

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:41 am on Dec 20, 2021
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blame on big pharma.

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