Or is the goal that we ignore geopolitics and thereby wreck our capitalist economy so the people will rise up and demand a socialist utopia?
Over years of deals and loans, the accusation goes, the Saudis have essentially bought Trump.
The only way we coild know that isn’t true: he has to release his financial records.
There’s a reason he doesn’t do that, and it isn’t just to stick it to the lefties.
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Saudi Prince, billionaire Alwaleed Bin Talal, also Trump's loaner, was a big story at time during Trump's presidential campaign. AbT would have published or given any dirts to Hillary campaign or FBI if he have had on Trump.
Link: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/saudi-prince-alwaleed-donald-trump_us_56aafa72e4b0010e80e99806
and wishes he could get away with it.
He was praising the Montana congressman who assaulted a reporter. Slammed him to the ground.
Enemy of the people.
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They won’t be on that throne a day longer than we let them and they know it.
Punishing them won’t wreck capitalism in the nation.
It will show that we aren’t snowflake, ballless wonders afraid of our own shadow, however preferable that is to you.
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Hope all is well.
Is Valhamma still up and running without the four headed GOAT hydra there?
See ya at yer next drive by.
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Why is this Saudi citizen more important to you than other Saudi citizens?
I mean, I agree that the Saudis are bad. We agree on that. But, you seem to be getting indignant about them (enough to post about it) only when it is politically convenient...when such indignance can be used as a lever against Trump.
This Virginia resident was known by his colleagues as a gentle spirit, but fearless in writing about corruption and brutality.
Like many brave journalists who take on autocrats, Khashoggi was silenced and then dismembered.
I value all life. Do not consider the taking of this man’s life as a convenient political tool.
Shame on you for diminishing his murder by virtue of his national origin.
But the guy hardly deserves a halo.
He did become more secular and more of a free speech advocate later on. He also showed brass balls taking on the Saudi leadership like he has.
In any event he was brutally killed for doing no more than expressing his views by his own govt.
Completely despicable.
that there is a deity who gives a damn about everything we do on earth. He actually supported Erdoğan's Islamification of Turkey's politics and his repression of journalists who opposed this. He was also backed by ultra-conservative Saudiis in the Royal who oppose the liberalization of that society.
can with people like you.
This tragedy is only important as a weapon against Trump. Those who are most vocally upset could actually give a rat's ass about the deceased.
murder their citizens wherever they want? This is what you endorse so your 401K stays fat and happy?
Also this guy was a US resident working for a US media outlet. There is a direct interest here where there may not be elsewhere.
Funny to hear you try to shame me when you make far more outrageous accusations than even what you have falsely accused me of.
As to the present matter, you say you value all life. I'll accept that for the purposes of this discussion. But the Saudis kill lots of people unjustly...but you seem to really want to use this one to attack the GOP. I was just wondering why...why you want to talk about this guy, but not other unjustly killed Saudis.
Had you ever heard of him before he died? I am curious. I certainly had never heard of him. Maybe now is as good a time as any to shame the US for not being meaner to the Saudis, but your timing is suspect. (I'm sure you will tell me you were a tremendous fan of his. I should never ask a question to which I don't already know the answer, right?)
The reason the murder of this Saudi citizen is different than the murder of other Saudi citizens is because he was targeted with every expectation that President Trump would fold.
The Kingdom knew Khashoggi was a Virginia resident and a journalist employed by the Washington Post. They know we value freedom of the press. They killed him anyway, confident that Trump would defer to their authority.
Above and beyond his murder, is the test balloon of how much deference will the United States give us? Can the United States be bought? Does the United States really stand for anything?
You may continue to view this murder as a NothinBurger. I will not.
If we do not scrutinize and push back against the brutal murder of Mr. Khashoggi, what happens when they kill a US citizen with a bone saw?
Link: https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/fear-jamal-khashoggi-181004080147143.html
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You may want to start calling for restraint.
If Trump vetoed a bill passed by Congress allowing 9/11 victims to go after the Saudis...you would probably criticize that action the same way you criticized that action when Obama did it, I presume?
No other prez would accept this BS and try to cover it up like this.
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY
summit and knew he would do nothing. They also part own him financially.
The Saudi's are a valuable tool for the US. That is the only reason they are tolerated.
do anything. The other two may have, they didn’t know. But they know their man here.
At least, if Trump did it, as opposed to Obama doing the same thing.
This is a messy business. I think the Saudis really botched this. I don't think they thought any of it through. There are a thousand ways to have gotten rid of that guy secretly...and they didn't pick one of them. For example, they could have used a car accident....
Which is why they did it.
I don't think the Saud's thought this through. It's a total fiasco for them. We'll see what Trump does.
Regardless, I don't think any country can take Trump for granted and assume he will show strategic patience. There are many ways to criticize him. This is not one of them.
his love of powerful autocrats.
He doesn't "love powerful autocrats." Even knowing your history, I'm still surprised that you can type that. They are his opponents, in every respect. He knows that there is no such thing as a "friend" on the geopolitical stage. There are only allies, and allies are those countries which have a common interest, and they are only allies as long as those common interests last. The only reason we (Bush, Obama, Trump) tolerate the Saudis is that they are a strategic asset to us. Look at the cold war. Would you say that Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, etc. loved the despots that they allied with against the Soviets? Of course not (even if they said nice things about them). But, those despots were strategic assets for the United States against an existential threat.
of these autocrats. He loves them because they exude raw power and because they helped him out mightily over the years.
He doesn’t just tolerate them like past leaders. Complete BS.
Those who love power do not love it when it is held by others.
when those others directly help them out.
Again yer comparison to prior prez’s is absurd.