According to this report, trump told Cohen tie to congress. About Russia.
I don’t think paying off porn star lovers is impeachable. Even if it is a felony, technically. That’s small stuff.
Now we have this. “Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie...the special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Org and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents."
I’m not sure this is small. This shows consciousness of guilt. There is no way he would have ONLY told Cohen to lie....
The walls are closing in.
The crisis is getting nearer.
Link: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation
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What does he care personally about when the business ties ended?
He’s also now doing jail time as a result of it.
deposition.
Their rules remember.
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On the other hand, suborning of perjury has a high bar to obtaining a criminal conviction:
Under federal Criminal Law (18 U.S.C.A. § 1622), five elements must be proved to convict a person of subornation of perjury. It first must be shown that the defendant made an agreement with a person to testify falsely. There must be proof that perjury has in fact been committed and that the statements of the perjurer were material. The prosecutor must also provide evidence that the perjurer made such statements willfully with knowledge of their falsity. Finally, there must be proof that the procurer had knowledge that the perjurer's statements were false.
1. It first must be shown that the defendant made an agreement with a person to testify falsely - might be the toughest bar, certainly if it's only Cohen's word vs. Trump. I have a sneaking suspicion there are other witnesses to this though. PENDING.
2. There must be proof that perjury has in fact been committed - Cohen's testimony is on the record and he's admitting he lied. DONE.
3. That the statements of the perjurer were material - See #2. DONE.
4. The prosecutor must also provide evidence that the perjurer made such statements willfully with knowledge of their falsity - See #2. DONE.
5. There must be proof that the procurer had knowledge that the perjurer's statements were false - See #1. PENDING.
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Bad. Real bad.
If this is true, he can’t survive it.
I was hoping we could get through to 2020...and we still might, if the story is inaccurate. But if it’s not, we are heading toward impeachment, which is going to tear this country apart.
Pun intended.
The end is near for Trump, and all those who blindly follow him.
If Cohen is your chief witness, yikes.
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..... that a witness made a material false statement under oath.
Suborning perjury is even more difficult to prove and would equally require strong objective proof (e.g. a taped conversation instructing a witness to lie). But, if proven, it is a serious offense as it is a frontal assault upon our fundamental belief in the rule of law and the integrity of the tribunal or court listening to sworn testimony.
Imagine a Senator instructing a nominee or a witness to lie during Supreme Court confirmation hearing?
Imagine a prosecutor instructing a witness to lie in a murder trial?
Imagine a sitting President instructing his former lawyer to lie under oath during a Congressional investigation about Russian interference in a US election when that President was fully aware that a foreign adversary colluded with his campaign?
No small thing.
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If this is true, and can be proven...that’s all she wrote.
Trump will certainly be impeached.
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