Nothing beats them for pure navel-gazing bullshit. This is regarding an article on decision-making, which was interesting. Anyway, one of the decision examples the author gave was on whether to have a child...
Rothman refers to several factors, often vague ones, that people consider in their decisions about having children. Oddly, all the factors he mentions—I count nineteen—concern the would-be parents. The experience that the child will have does not appear to be a major consideration. It seems to me that one question should supersede all others: What kind of life—what kind of world—will my child endure as an adult? It requires a kind of willful myopia not to be concerned about the answer.
Jefferson Ranck
Portland, Ore.
“What kind of life will my child ENDURE?” Priceless. The douche probably had a tear in his eye as he typed that with histrionic earnestness.
Historically, this has happened many times in the past. Always in settings considered barbaric and never possible in our day. Yet, here we are.
So there's that.
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I could have a pithy reply.
Odd how that suddenly makes sense for you.
with the parents/family children are born into. Are the parents worthy of bringing a child into the world?
I've heard the term "Nazi" bandied about quite a bit the last couple years. This is one of those rare instances, where there really is Nazi-like talk happening.
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Absent mandatory abortion (which we do not have), the only person playing God is the person carrying the baby in their womb.
Abortion advocates cannot play God, unless they happen to be pregnant.
encourage the desicion to abort in ay way? More than 30 years of practice has shown me otherwise. Many of those doctors and PP people are very involved.
There is an old saying in medicine that "it's all in how you counsel them".
But regardless, even if you eliminate the advocates role, these women aborting their babies do not have the right to play God either. They are also under extreme duress with the doctor or nurse then tempts them with the easiest of all short term answers 9and the hardest of all longterm things to live with after the fact).
You can find some extreme positions on both sides of this issue. There are some people who believe it's not OK to abort a two week old fetus but it is OK to kill adults and blow up buildings. It's an emotional issue but when the crazies started getting their guns and dynamite, maybe we should tone it down a bit.
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It was Julie Alvin, who was laid off last week from HuffPo.
Trisomy 13 or 18, for example has a 90% to 95% mortality rate in the first year after birth. I am not sure, but others are much, much worse (except 21, which is obviously not incompatible with life).
Trisom 9 and 22 are clearly incompatible with life. They are rare and tragic.
You didn't quite say that, but the context is that of an abortion discussion, where the governor of Virginia and others on the Left have recently supported killing a just born baby if the baby is disabled. Do you agree with those people? Where do you draw the line?
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In my experience, it was a simple way to say that the precious baby in your wife's womb could not live past a few hours, if it was born alive.
I never considered it to be a political statement in any way. I never thought it was pro-abortion or pro-life. It just was the honest assessment of what was coming.
I'm seeing where Northam is discussing a baby that is born and dying, and this was a known thing that would happen, and the parents with the doctor decide whether or not to try and revive it.
And I'm also seeing talk of smothering babies and killing babies with disabilities. Does this bill give someone the legal right to abort a child with Downs in whatever week they wish? Post birth? Is that right already afforded?
MAS suggested that using the phrase "incompatible with life" to describe the condition of "some babies" was NAZI terminology.
I am only saying that it is not. There are "some babies" that are characterized that way, in my opinion, properly.
If you want to get into an argument about Northam, then you'll have to take it up with someone who has heard of Northam. And that would eliminate me.
I was just trying to stem MAS's epic Godwin fail.
The criminality for unsuccessful abortion attempts “born alive babies” in several liberal abortion states has been removed.
Northampton was referring to this along with the aggressive prenatal screening and then counseling for abortions of his people as well.
It’s all wrong, and a I can tell you can see this. It’s real. In fact, it was reall in 2005 or so when Barack Obama defended his Illinois Senate vote to block a bill in his state that would make it a crime to kill a baby born alive after a doctor smothered a viable term baby that survived a mistaken abortion and was perfectly normal and healthy (I mention this because sadly that part matters to some). Obama’s response caught on tape was “But she meant for the baby not to live”. It didn’t bother you guys back then....or it could be that the media wouldn’t report it and search engines filtered out the video.
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