Thomas Patrick Edward Brady Jr. The Greatest.
Hate him because he's married to a supermodel.
Hate him because he's got the high cheek bones, the hair and the smile.
Hate him because he's living the life.
Hate him because he breaks your heart. Every. Flippin'. Year.
Hate him because you ain't him.
But respect him for the most playoff wins, most division titles, most conference titles, most Super Bowl appearances, most Super Bowl wins and most Super Bowl MVPs. Respect him for the almost two decade long shadow he's cast on the NFL. Sustained excellence.
In the history of major team sports leagues there is only one player ever who can say this morning that there are no sports franchises in his own league that have more championships than he does. Not the NFL, NHL, MLB or NBA. Just Tom.
Tom Brady. The best that ever played a game.
Replies to: Thomas Patrick Edward Brady Jr. The Greatest.
1) Gretzky was is the all time greatest. 2) Steelers have the same # championships.
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Otto Graham led the Browns to 10 consecutive championship games, winning 7
Highest career winning % for a starting QB
#1 in career average yards gained per pass attempt (Brady is #26)
How many were AAFC?
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Here is the one argument against Brady
Does anyone think he would have been great without Belichick?
Would Drew Brees have gone to a dozen super bowls on the Patriots?
Is Brady - Belichick = Matt Ryan?
I thought you were going to say that he went to Michigan. But per their loserhood, they benched him
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Greatness occurs at the intersection of ability and opportunity.
What if Montana didn't have Bill Walsh and Jerry Rice? What if Dan Marino did? What if you switched the teams that Russell and Chamberlain played on their entire careers? You can play that game for everyone.
Brady has the ability. Belichick created the opportunity. Greatness.
More importantly, what if I had Belichek? (Not in the biblical sense).
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What if Superman was born in Germany?
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Link: SNL- What If?
What if Wayne Gretsky was born and lived in San Diego?
Freakin cosmic if you think about it.
We could have found out when Belichick wanted to jettison Brady for Garoppolo...
Kraft overruled it...so we'll never know.
I don't say this because I like ND, but if I had one possession to win a game, Montana is still my
choice.
Berra, Richard, Russell all have more rings in their sports.
Posted at 7:58 am on Feb 4, 2019
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Your post should be subtitled "English no me good know understand"
I KNEW you would struggle with my second last paragraph. Read it again. Figure it out. Do the math.
Condescend this you Leaf-Lover:
Posted at 9:52 am on Feb 4, 2019
Berra. Richard, Russell: "who can say this morning that there are no sports franchises in his own league that have more championships than he does."
This should assume within their lifetime. Otherwise you go back to the 19th century for Baseball, early 20th for hockey, and 1934 for The NFL and it becomes a ridiculous argument.
The NYG have 7 NFL Championships, for example.
A mumbled ESL assertion on your part.
My previous two posts stand.
Honestly, I don't know why I bother. Let me make this as elementary as possible for you.
NHL Stanley Cup Championships:
Montreal Canadiens - 24
Toronto Maple Leafs - 13
Henri Richard - 11
MLB World Series Champions:
New York Yankees - 27
St. Louis Cardinals - 11
Yogi Berra - 10
NBA Championships:
Boston Celtics - 17
LA Lakers - 16
Bill Russell - 11
NFL Super Bowl Champions:
Tom Brady - 6
New England Patriots - 6
Pittsburgh Steelers - 6
It's a cool stat. I created it.
Petulant little people like Ara make petulant little arguments.
I despise skunk bear Tom.
Nonetheless he is the GOAT at least in my lifetime of all sports. Can’t comment about guys I’ve never seen.
The GBP have 13 NFL Championships.
Posted at 10:18 am on Feb 4, 2019
You conveniently edit history to suit your assertions.
Super Bowls.
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"Super" is marketing hype.
Posted at 10:26 am on Feb 4, 2019
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It means modern era, after the merger and expansion. Same argument you are making above, genius.
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How many HOFers did they play with?
In Russell’s case, I looked it up. Between 1967 and 1969, 14 Hall-of-famers played on the Celtics.
How many have been on these Patriot teams?
Agree that brady's teams were inferior. He played against less HOFers as well.
Posted at 10:04 am on Feb 4, 2019
" Any dynasty had multiple great players. Bob Cousy is one of the all-time great guards. However, Russell won 5 championships without him. John Havlicek is also one of the 15 all-time greatest players in history. Russell won 5 championships without him. He won multiple championships without every one of his teammates (except Sam Jones, whom he won 1 without, but Jones was a backup for his first 4 seasons).
Also, the 1955 Celtics had Cousy, Bill Sharman, Frank Ramsey, and "Easy" Ed McCauley (at center). That is FOUR hall of famers. They were coached by Red Auerbach. They were 36-36 and finished in 3rd place in the division. The next season, they went 39-33. The season after that, Russell joined (and only played 48 games due to the Olympics), and they went 44-28 and won the championship.
Look at his first title team (1957) and look at his last title team (1969). Who was the only constant? Bill Russell at center.
After the last title, Russell and Sam Jones retired. The Celtics drafted Jo Jo White to replace Jones. The dropped 3 ppg at that position. White is in the hall of fame. Hank Finkel replaced Russell. The Celtics missed the playoffs."
You don't get it and you never will.
Russell played in a league with 10 teams. Brady plays in a league with 32 teams.
There are 5 starters on an NBA team. NFL teams have 22 starters.
In any one season, Russell started with 40-60% of his team's starters being HOFers in a 10 team league! The NFL equivalent would mean that Brady has played and is playing with 9-13 HOFers throughout his career in a 32 team league.
Point out the 9 HOFers from last night's Pats team. You can't because they aren't there.
Give it up. Don't fear greatness. Embrace it.
Oh I agree that the level of competition for brady is pathetic.
Posted at 10:30 am on Feb 4, 2019
He neither plays with, nor against as many HOF players do to the dilution and de-volution of his sport.
When guys are flagged for legitimately and cleanly tackling a "defenseless player" then the game is comically soft.
Last night's "Super" Bowl was a shit show.
Sounds like you are discounting All The Leaves Original Six Cups. I'm fine with that.
Posted at 10:25 am on Feb 4, 2019
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Richard played in a league with six teams and Berra in a league with 9.
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Bingo.
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Agree with Chris on this one. The Pats continuously win with what most teams would consider
blue collar players.
I am a Bengal fan, so really have no dog in the hunt, but it is quite amazing what the Pats have done for a while now.
I think Brady benefits greatly from Belichick in that regard...
I reluctantly think Brady is the GOAT (wouldn't concede Montana for a long time) but playing for this HOF coach is akin to playing with other HOF'ers. Not sure Brady is GOAT without Belichick (and likely vice versa, as well).