This is why Pelosi wanted to block the SOTU address. Trump approval jumps to 52%.

Author: BaronVonZemo (22724 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Feb 11, 2019

Expect the Dems to be a bit more giving in negotiations now. This is the absolute green light for a partial shutdown, state of emergency, or yes, even another shut down - polls suggest the worm has turned on who the public now blames. These polls were done in the 3 days after the SOTU speech.

Dems spent the speech looking angry, petulant, unhappy with good news that all Americans should have been heartened by, and uncooperative and mocking (Pelosi’s mock clap for instance). Public noticed Trump had offered compromise. Pelosi is easy to dislike as well. Dem women in KKK white would not clap for American citizen gains, but couldn’t resist clapping for themselves.

Time to play hardball as Dems backpedal.


Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6691891/Trumps-approval-rating-likely-voters-soars-best-23-MONTHS-52-cent.html

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Thread Level: 2

That's a lot of wishful thinking heaped onto one outlier poll.

Author: LehighND (4690 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:57 pm on Feb 11, 2019
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Rasmussen is not an outlier poll,but you make a good point that there are polls to tell one whatever

Author: BaronVonZemo (22724 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 7:27 pm on Feb 11, 2019

one wants to hear. So, I guess the real question is whether the parties involved believe it. I know Trump does, and I guess we will see by the Dems move to compromise or not whether they believe it as well.

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Thread Level: 4

It really is an outlier.

Author: LehighND (4690 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Feb 11, 2019

But in another poll on Monday, Rasmussen Reports, which is consistently a conservative-leaning outlier among polling outfits, found that 46 percent of respondents said they would vote for the Republican congressional candidate if the election were held today, while 45 percent said they would go with the Democrat. Rasmussen put Trump's approval rating at 50 percent and his disapproval at 49 percent.

This is was the Monday before the 2018 midterms. The midterms turned out a bit differently - 51.7M Dem. votes to 47.4M Rep. votes.


Thread Level: 5

Do you believe there is a Democratic candidate out there

Author: WoodstockIrish (9644 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Feb 11, 2019

Who can beat Trump?

Thread Level: 6

20-something months from now?

Author: LehighND (4690 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 pm on Feb 11, 2019

I haven't the foggiest idea.

Thread Level: 7

I think its going to be a problem

Author: WoodstockIrish (9644 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:31 pm on Feb 12, 2019

Based on what we have seen so far. Biden is likely your best bet or maybe the Starbucks guy.

Thread Level: 8

There is definitely a battle brewing between the moderates and far left wings.

Author: LehighND (4690 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 am on Feb 13, 2019

I don't want to be far left, and America doesn't want to be far left. Shoot, many commentators of the "liberal media" are warning against the party alienating its centrist wing. But that wing is energetic and might prevail.

I want nothing to do with it.

If it's the only choice I have other than Donald Trump, then maybe I will hold my nose and vote for whomever.


Thread Level: 5

Interesting, though they were also the closest actual poll wrt 2016 (LATimes wasn’t a true poll) but

Author: BaronVonZemo (22724 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:32 pm on Feb 11, 2019

I admit mine is only an opinion- you have presented more evidence than I, so I will have to concede. But I’m still watching and hoping.

Thread Level: 6

That is true.

Author: LehighND (4690 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:29 pm on Feb 11, 2019

The difference, if I recall, is that Rasmussen in 2016 was right there with the consensus (regarding vote totals - modest edge to HRC). I don't know what they are outliers most of the time, or what would make them closer to the consensus other times.

This particular one seems out there. That said, Trump clearly recovered a bit from the end of the shutdown and the SOTU. He is a persuasive orator for many, and that kind of venue would admittedly be good for him.


Thread Level: 2

And what compromise are you referring to?

Author: golfernot (951 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Feb 11, 2019

Or did you confuse that with kompromat?

Thread Level: 3

Dreamer reprieve was the biggest thing as I recall

Author: BaronVonZemo (22724 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:41 pm on Feb 11, 2019

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