he thinks it's funny. He was that kid on the playground we all thought was not right in the head. But imagine March, Mueller probe comes out no collusion of obstruction of justice. A trade agreement signed with China. A agreement calling for the end of the Korean War after 70 years. Abe of Japan nominates Trump for Peace Prize. The Dow crashes through 27,000.
Yet the other side is hoping on a failed agreement with China and a global economic meltdown, North Korea fires off more rockets over Japan. And the House begins Impeachment proceedings. I don't want to live in your world of hatred.
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It's best to just let him finish.
You just don't want to be around him if you're wearing short pants, if you know what I mean.
Worse than puppy love.
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I'm a winner, I voted for Trump, keep trying.
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enough for my stupidity in supporting those two. You would think I would have learned my lesson when Donald came along, but I just can’t resist being attracted to morons. So here I go again America, I sincerely apologize for supporting that disgraced clown. Frank, of course was right as usual and I should have listened, but then again as my handle suggests I often do stupid shit. Please forgive me.
On my hands and knees begging forgiveness, AGAIN,
PB (still) Hanging Chad
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A trade agreement is signed with China which says what? Lip service to Orange or real demonstrable concessions? A symbolic end to the Korean War with NK still developing and building nuclear weapons? Or, is there denuclearization or serious enforceable limits placed on their program? Obama could have had that deal over which you brainiacs would have all flipped out. An over exuberant stock market which will eventually fall flat on its ass like 2008? Debt through the roof soon to exceed GDP.
And I definitely wouldn’t bet on yer Mueller prediction.
I never voted for Obama, but I never hoped he would fail. Did I have disagreement with his policies, absolutely. But I knew that in the end if he was wrong Americans would suffer. You hate Trump so much, you are willing to see the worse happen just so you can say you were right.
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But given who we have in charge and his track record they are more likely than not.
So, you can can be a moronic ostrich with your head like you, in the sand or call them realitically,
I will admit I'm wrong without any reservations if you will do the same. But from your postings you really can't give credit where it is due. You always hedge. So take my challenge.
China
So if Trump cuts a deal with China that puts us on an even playing field with real penalties for stealing corporate intelligence, eliminating restrictions for US companies like American Express, Mastercard and others to do business in China, eliminate tariffs on US autos, and forcing US companies to have a China majority controlled corporate structure, will you admit Trump won where other Presidents failed? If he signs a deal where we sell China $1 billion in agricultural goods, I will say he sold out.
North Korea
If he signs an agreement ending the 70 year war on the Korean peninsula that demands North Korea open nuclear and missile sites for inspection will you agree Trump won where other Presidents failed. If he signs a peace treaty with no inspections and no idea what North Korea is doing without our knowledge I will say he sold out.
Economy
If the Dow breaks through 27,000 and continues toward 30,000 and employment for all Americans remains at record lows and real wages continue to rise will you admit that Trump was respossible for this economy? If on the other hand it collapses due to his economic policies, I will admit he was a failure.
Just so you know, if I'm correct the world will be a much better place for you and your family. If you are correct, we will be in a world of shit and only a Democrat President would effect change.
God help us!!
He has not significantly reduced unemployment since he's been in office, but granted it didn't have far to go from then.
What we don't know is what price we are paying in environmental and worker safety. What we do know is the price we are paying in deficits, and that ain't good.
The stock market is doing well. The deficit funded tax breaks and continued accommodative monetary policy have enabled more and more stock buy backs, which obviously helps stock prices.
currency. Remember some years ago when the Euro was going to be the dominate currency and many countries talked about pricing commodities (oil, gold, steel, grains, etc) in the more stable Euro. How did that work out? With Brexit, the EU coming apart, riots in France and Italy, Poland and Hungary going their own way. How does the world have any confidence in the Euro? And don't even bring up the Chinese Yuan, what country wants to mark their economies on a communist country's currency. So like it or not we can print as much money and run deficits as long as the world knows there is no alternative. So if you have any idea on who will usurp that superiority I'm all ears.
you are clueless when it comes to the world of high finance. You stepped on your dick recently when I had to explain to you how quickly financial blockades can bring a single resource economy to its knees.
Now you're pretending to understand the world of clearing currencies based upon a trade union that chose not to have a mechanism in place to deal with economic shocks. It had no Central Bank capable of dealing with the liquidity issues presented by the financial disaster of 2007-2008/ Furthermore, it allowed one of its most significant members to maintain it's own currency. Look, I could go on and on about the topic and draw a very credible case that the US Dollar is at risk of losing its dominance as the world reserve currency but you're just too dumb or arrogant or who the fuck knows what to even listen.
TTP, TTIP and TISA were flawed trade agreements with respect to the average working stiff. But a thread underlying all of these agreements was to protect the US Dollar against a real threat of destabilization. The RMB is now a significant part of the SDR currency basket of the IMF. As for your "Commies can't be trusted to clear trades argument", are you aware that the Chinese have set up an instrument to settle oil trades with gold back Yuan contracts?. In other words, the "commie" currency is instantly convertible into physical gold. Do you understand what the acronym BRICS stands for or it's implications to US Dollar hegemony? I could spend months covering this topic but you would neither listen nor understand most of what I would be talking about. .
If deficits do not matter, then we ought to implement all the liberal's desired social programs and reduces taxes to nothing, right?
no concept of the origins of Libertarian philosophy or thinking. Basically, HChad believes that Ron & Rand Paul are Libertarians. Whoops, I almost forgot to throw in Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand. He blathers about deficits and US Dollar hegemony as if he even remotely understands how fiat currency is created, how the Federal Reserve works and its relation to the IMF and World Bank. He's an intellectual train wreck and quite gullible despite all his barking.
As soon as you challenge him with facts and superior knowledge he pisses his pants and goes radio silent with respect to the push-back. It's quite amusing actually.
good luck with your over inflated ego.
You did precisely what I predicted. As soon as someone hits you with facts and superior information you ignore it. You have no idea what you are talking about with respect to this issue. Despite what you characterize as an out of control ego, notice how I defer to you with respect to your knowledge of the oil business. Why? Because I'm reasonably confident that you do know more than I about oil. By definition, someone with a titanic ego would never do that.
What I do is stick to my knitting. If you're going to arrogantly step into my world be prepared to get smacked hard. And the way I smack hard is to lay out little bits of information that allow you to prove me wrong. Because if you could, you would do it in a heartbeat.
of the entitled. So you can't print money unless the underlying economy can support deficit spending. You don't seem to grasp that concept. but you are liberal so what do you know?
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anymore) could come right from AOC.
At least you’re honest and don’t pretend to embrace conservative principles. Just print money.
I'm a libertarian that will mostly vote Republican because you Democrats want to nose your way into my life. So yes, if the world wants to buy our debt let them have it.
You sir, are no libertarian.
You are a recycled W/Vice guy, hanging boy.
And the latest snake oil sales clown you embrace will leave things like they did.
so while you dream of retribution in the future you have another two years to live as a loser. How could you have been so wrong? But you are right now, sure? So live it and love it.
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The only disagreement the parties have on deficit spending is what it should be spent on.
The kids want presents. They just want THEIR presents.
The Republicans want to spend more and tax less.
The Democrats wants to spend more and tax more.
The Democrats do not want to tax nearly enough to cover their appetite for spending, but at least that admit that increased spending requires increased taxes.
That way, I will be better prepared when the shit hits the financial fan.
Only morons think that uncritically like him.
the same way we finance wars. You guys don't seem to have a problem running deficits for entitlement programs.
Your hero though is supposedly running a roaring economy but yet interest rates can’t be returned to normal levels?
Just stop that you are really a Republican. Orange certainly isn’t.
and I will do the same. If the world wants to buy our debt so be it. What's their alternative? You won't argue that point, will you?
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Who made it clear that he would not touch entitlements AND introduced a 1.5 Trillion dollar tax break?
Hint - it wasn't "you guys".
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The first line of defense in a recession is typically fiscal policy. That's gone.
The second line of defense (or co-first), is lowering interest rates. That's nearly gone.
The more extreme is printing money. We weaned ourselves off of that years ago. At least we still have that.
that happens. On the economy, the Dow could go to 32K before it crashes. This is what happens during bubbles. Ultimately, without reigning in debt though, the reckoning will come and will be bad. Only if I see significant efforts to cut both discretionary and non discretionary spending and/or revenue increases will I agree.
But if he secures peace on the Korean Peninsula, he will deserve it.
They look sillier every day.
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