Or, does it matter which side they are on politically?
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Both failed to register as lobbyists. Both represented essentially the same people. Both registered late to cover their sins.
The main difference between Podesta and Manafort on this issue is that one is a Dem, and the other isn't.
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Why do you think the justice bureaucracy is prosecuting Manafort and not Podesta for the same crime, at the same time, involving the same people?
Why do you think the justice bureaucracy tends to give immunity to HRC aides, but prosecutes Trump aides for lying to the FBI? We know there are crimes on all sides. But only one side gets prosecuted. I find that interesting.
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It sure will be interesting if Trump actually develops his own fifth column within the FBI/DOJ for the next president.
The situations are not the same, and even Trump's DOJ has known this. Two years of Republican house, senate, and executive office, and no one went after Podesta.
The situations are the same, but the results are different. And, there are other parallels between the Trump/HRC investigations, where the primary difference is the political affiliation of the targets. (I say "political affiliation," but I don't mean conservative vs. liberal. Perhaps I should say "power affiliation"...the powerful people they are affiliated with, not how they vote necessarily, although there is overlap there, of course).
We have political people like Strzok and Page within the justice bureaucracy, and they are corrupting it. They've been removed, but they certainly did their damage. We still don't know who the mole is in the WH, do we? Power is being played, and it is not democratic power.
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And, besides, if the crime is worth jail time, it is worth jail time for all, regardless of party affiliation.
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10 criminals, 5 GOP, 5 Dem. Putting 5 GOP criminals in jail, and granting immunity and then not charging 5 Dems is considered "a good start." Yeah, it is...unless you are looking for a sustainable form of government. You and Frank etc. just sit back and say, "He was guilty." But no one is contesting that. The discussion is not whether he was guilty. The discussion is whether the system is fair. It is not, even if it put a guilty man in jail today.
However, readily available information on the internet suggests you're wrong.
List of federal Legislative Branch politicians convicted of crimes while holding office, sorted by President.
Trump: 0 - Dems; 0 - Reps
Obama: 5 - D, 5 - R
GWB: 3 - D, 4 - R
Clinton: 8 - D, 2 - R
GHWB: 2 - D, 1 - R
Reagan: 11 - D, 4 - R
TOTALS: 29 - D, 16 - R
While by no means a comprehensive review, just looking at the Legislative Branch convictions seems to indicate no strong bias for Democrats or Republicans. If this bias were as pervasive as you'd like to believe, I would expect the numbers to be skewed strongly against the Republicans. They aren't.
Link: Yeah, I know its wikipedia. You got a better source?
I think going back a few decades waters down the data. I don't think our justice bureaucracy was as corrupted back then as it is now. I think this is a new development in our government, and I think the recent trend is bad, and the historical performance is irrelevant.
Nonetheless, it would be interesting to see data about campaign aides and executive branch staffers investigated/interviewed by the FBI in the past 10 years. I think that Obama's aides weren't investigated, and HRC's aides got immunity to get them to talk, with no indictments. I think that Trump aides got indictments to get them to talk. I think an investigation was started with out evidence as an insurance policy, per Lisa Paige.
But, whatever. It is what it is. I can't change anything. I'll still have a beer in my recliner Friday night.
(Side note: Funny that your data is opposite that of golfkrzy's meme.)
However, I believe they will get theirs after Horowitz drops his report and likely refers them for charges including perjury and Fara violations.
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Check it out. Comey flat out lied. The Obama DOJ had the fix in before the Hillary Email Crime was ever deliberated. I suppose that is why Obama came out publicly and announced how the DOJ would rule before the investigation was done - he had made up his mind, and he was calling the shots.
Of course, the Lisa Page testimony confirms that Obama lied, Comey lied, McCabe lied, and Rosenstein lied. But loyal Deep staters like them (and Lois Lerner before them) are taken care of well.
Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chart-reveals-doj-informed-investigators-not-willing-to-charge-clinton
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Might not sound like a parody quite so often.
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after Manafort was indicted?
Link: https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara
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They have not been charged. Yet.
Link: https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/feds-ramp-up-probe-into-podesta-lobbying-firm-with-ties-to-manafort/
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for being an unregistered foreign agent for the Ukraine. Podesta and Weber were also unregistered in their work for the Ukraine. In fact, Podesta immediately shut down his firm the second Manafort was indicted.
How much further do I have to spell it our for you?
Are you really saying though that he had the level of criminal activity that Manafort had?
violation but that only Manafort was charged.
Where I (may) disagree with Ned is that I believe Podesta will eventually be charged out of the SDNY.
I also believe that we are witnessesing an extraordinary moment in DoJ history. I believe that after Mueller wraps up (you probably noticed that Weissman quit today and Barr isn't taking Weissman back to the DoJ) and the IG issues his report on McCabe, Strozk, Comey, Lynch et al concerning the tainted Clinton investigation and the FISA violations, that the DoJ will be bring charges.
Right now, Trump is complaining loudly that the DoJ isn't doing anything regarding Comey, McCabe, Strozk et al. That is not true. The DoJ in DC is looking into McCabe's lies as there is a Grand Jury impaneled. Huber is looking into the FISA violations. Podesta has been referred to the SDNY. Lisa Page is now a cooperating witness. The IG continues to work on his Clinton and FISA abuse reports. They are all quietly working in the background. They are not doing anything right now in public so as not to be seen as tainting the Mueller investigation. Once Mueller wraps up, the sky will fall on Obama's FBI and DoJ. Charges will be brought.
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Link: https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1106021463516217350
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The best Twatter account going right now though is Titania McGrath.
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Can you send us a link to the Podesta indictment. Was not aware he has been charged with criminal wrongdoing.
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and dominated Justice system. It’s not Republicans fault that they are much better are getting convicted. Somehow that god damn Hillary and Podesta, despite hundreds of hours of Republican controlled testimony, always find a way to land on their feet. Even though we have all the goods on crooked Hillary, we took the higher ground and decided not to issue an indictment. How does she make us do that?
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