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Do people believe that omitting scores actually hurts their odds? Seems like unless you score a 35 or 36 on the ACT (or whatever the SAT equivalent is) that you would be best served to leave it out?

Then again, I wouldn't make scores optional, so I wouldn't be in academia.

And if it weren't true, it would likely come out. You think Notre Dame is going to risk being caught committing fraud?

...while appearing to be woke.

But, maybe the admissions people take that kind of nonsense seriously (to the detriment of the university and the students they admit and reject).

I just know if I were staring at two equal applications, except that one had a high score and the other had no score, I would think there probably was a difference between the two candidates.

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Granted, if Harvard or Yale said it, and I didn't have a top score, I might send in an application just to see what happens.

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below ND's average admission standards (a 1420 SAT is below the average accepted applicant's SAT of 1470, and even a bit lower than the converted average of it's average ACT acceptance of 34).

Also, the lack of class rank is often done by elite, very expensive high school prep schools who realized that they were going to lose students when parents realized that a class rank hurt their kids (for example a kid who ranks 10th at Ignatius in Chi or Loyola in LA is probably harder to achieve than number 2 a lesser school that is much cheaper, but the universities don't want every kid from the same prep school, and a valedictorian is always more impressive on a resume than the expensive school. Parents were starting to ask why they weee shelling out so much just to handicap their kids).
Additionally, the UN activities in Swaziland sound like a college resume builder that these prep schools arrange that has also met with a lot of skepticism at elite schools lately..
This may not describe your neighbor's situation, but I'd bet there is a good chance that it does.

The rest of the resume sounds great, but is the same as many others these schools are having to sift through. They can't accept them all, and they are the first to tell you that they will have misses in both who they accept and who they reject. The job is almost impossible.

What is odd is that Princeton's admission standards are even higher. He may have some sort of connection there as his numbers are well below their averages.


Link: ND admission averages

with Princeton

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The reference to ‘all the activities of a UN contingent in Swaziland’….is that real, or a phrase of speech? I ask because I once actually worked on a UN funded project in Swaziland. No shit. Yes, this is a message board and we’re all superheroes married to Playboy bunnies and supermodels, but I’m not kidding. Send me bmail if you want, but I’m genuinely curious.

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