I'd really enjoy it if someone could persuade the HuffPo gals to post on this board.
Link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-art-garrison-mcnaughto_n_5c5b44cbe4b00187b557cb56
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Do you have trouble understanding why women aren't drawn to boards disproportionately loaded with old white men complaining about Liberals?
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=post&forumid=7
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Can't understand why there aren't women posters here...
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Pssssssst....women avoid internet message boards for a few big reasons:
1. Women aren't particularly interested in sports, crude jokes, politics outside of elections and they typically have far less knowledge about the sorts of subjects that get discussed here and on other forums. Not just sports, but the music that gets discussed by men aged 30-60. And I'll give you $100 to find a woman who can tell us something about WWI.
2. Women don't generally like debating things. Observe the sorts of sites they do like to visit. Observe the conversations they have with each other. There's an almost pathological need to try to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.
3. Finally, women aren't funny. If you can't be at least occasionally funny, you won't get much recognition on most forums.
How's that for a hanging curveball? Hey batter, batter, batter! Ssssswing batter, batter, batter!
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Perhaps you can post directly under the post I made which you thought was sexist, and then explain why you thought it was sexist. That might move the discussion forward. It is not clear to me that anything I have said was sexist. I did criticize your post by pointing out above that women don't come here in general, and it was silly of you to suggest that "old white men complaining about liberals" was keeping them away.
By the way...did you really mean to say that women are afraid to come to online forums frequented by white men?...and that you think women are comfortable with black men instead. Or, did the "white" adjective get inserted out of habit?
Would love to hear how your post was not sexist and racist. I personally don't think you meant it as such, but you are the one who brought race into the discussion, and then accused another poster of being sexist.
to one team in it.
Can’t imagine that anyone other than old and middle aged men would post here.
If that’s sexist, meh.
Liberals usually do get upset about that. But this is the core reason liberal feminism is flawed: They want equal status/outcomes for men and women, not equal opportunity. They assume (incorrectly) that men and women would make the same choices if given equal opportunity, and when unequal outcomes occur, they conclude (incorrectly) that there must be discrimination. Of course, this is not true. In actuality, when given total freedom (equality of opportunity), men and women make different choices...because they are statistically different, and statistically like different things (like sports/not-sports). They've done studies on this. Women shy away from certain sciences or careers and towards others (when given freedom / equality of opportunity); so do men. It is the freedom of choice which causes unequal distribution such as fewer electrical engineer women, not systemic discrimination within the field of electrical engineering.
Maybe women don't like the type of speech which occurs here, as Lehigh suggested. I actually don't think that is a sexist statement. I was basically making the same observation you were making. But he pushed the discussion into "sexism," and I don't think that was a helpful or accurate direction for the discussion to move...at least, not with my post or your post as the starting point.
these forums? Doesn’t seem that way.
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To be clear, MAS's response that I said seems sexist. The way approach the topic makes sense enough, but MAS, IMHO, went a little too far in his generalizations.
I suppose it is always a matter of taste and degree.
His points 1 (women aren't drawn to sports) and 2 (women aren't drawn to debating things) were mostly comments about what women are drawn to (and his point #2 is exactly your point).
His point 3 (women are not funny) is more arguably sexist. It could be argued as a stereotypical judgement. But, it could be a factual observation if you note that in general, there are fewer women in comedy, and class clowns are almost always guys.
This is what threw me off: You brought up "old white men." When you used those words, it sounded like you were not making a point about "women not being drawn to older white men," but that you were actually making a point about what they were willing to tolerate to participate in a football/political forum.
I re-read your post and MAS' original post. My response was in the right place. Editing the other one now.
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Doesn't mean I'm actually going to seek out that unpleasantness.
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That was the distinction I was making. There is a difference between being able to tolerate something (your accusation), and being "drawn to" something (my actual post).
There is a much more negative connotation to women not being able to tolerate something, than there is to the notion that women generally have little attraction to something.
I can tolerate standing in the rain. I am not drawn to stand in the rain.
Or did, technically.
Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_W._Tuchman
I'm eagerly awaiting the, "Oh yeah! Lucille Ball was hilarious!" retort.
Walk to the middle of your nearest city. Cover a one square mile area around and find me a woman who can tell you something about WWI. And then find one who can make you laugh, intentionally.
The single-most bewlidering experience on UHND, which is saying something, was when Gup shared that he thought Margaret Cho was funny. Threw my world into a tailspin.
Can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. I hope Trump has a chance to replace key people at the NEA. Then weaponize it in the other direction. maybe we can finally get it defunded.
Once heard on public radio: "What about me? I'm an artist and no one wants to buy my art."
gold team.
How appropriate.
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