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27,000!!! Will Mr Krugman and Summers report to the ER there are doctors waiting

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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28% drop in illegal entry since Trump issued threat to Mexico. Promise kept(Mexico is paying for it)

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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This soloution wouldn’t have even occurred to the Left.

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So - no wall necessary, right?

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:46 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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No because we need a lot more than just a 28% drop, but it’s a start.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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We need a budget for providing a nice hotel to a million illegals.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:42 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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I'm guessing a wall is cheaper.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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It won't last much longer

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 5:38 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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You let me down sold everything Dow at 27,259 will it stop going up, what should I do now?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:42 am on Jul 12, 2019
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Don’t worry, keep buying. It will last forever.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 4:59 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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Buy now! Its 27232. Then thank CC for your new-found wealth!

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:40 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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Based on that I’m selling everything at the open. Thanks.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:26 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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It will if they give 5 yr near-0 rate to Trump. Where else can you park cheap $ except stock market?

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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Well, Trump will be out of office after the 2020 election, then what?

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 7:17 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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It doesn't matter to whom. The point is the market is pricing rate cut this & next yr. So, if we

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:59 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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have 3 more years rate cut or staying near-zero rate by Feds (totally 5 years as I said), the market will continue going up by pricing those cuts. Of course I am not saying Feds will cut rate and keep near-zero rate. I am not saying I encourage this 5 year near-zero rate policy either.

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Why not waste what little dry powder we have on making Trump look better?

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:45 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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Seems logical.

1. Deficit-funded stimulus in a growing economy? Done.
2. Monetary policy Fed rate reductions down from 2.25%? Done.


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You think Trump really cares about Wall st? He's forcing Fed to help in his trade war which is for

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:38 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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mainstreet economy of America. You do know the real head of China's Fed is Xi, don't you?

As for deficits, it's mostly due to spending. As early as June 2017, before tax cut became a law, CBO already estimated that the federal deficits would increase in next coming years. But, at least individual income taxes collected did rise in fiscal 2018 due to tax cut. Corporations need time to figure out how o re-invest their tax cuts. It's probably not 1 or 2 years thing.


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=510118

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Setting aside your strategies, please stop with the revenue rising because of the tax cut.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:30 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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Revenue always rises, except in a recession. It rises because the GDP grows, and because of inflation. In other words, if inflation is 2%, and GDP growth (as reported "net") is 2.5%, then the actual GDP rose 4.5% in absolute terms. That growth is due to economic activity that is taxed. It happens every year outside of a recession when there is NOT a tax cut.

Thus, "But, at least individual income taxes collected did rise in fiscal 2018 due to tax cut" is completely wrong. If this is the basis on which you think Trump's tax cuts were genius, then I am relieved because you will no longer feel that way now.

As to your other point, let's start with whether the President should be able to use the Fed as a strategic tool for anything. The answer is no. The Fed should respond to the economy, not the president.


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Strange. You already quoted my "individual income taxes", so you know what I am referring to. But,

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:32 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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you still brought up the tax revenues generated by total GDP (of which, individual income is only a part of). And also you do know "individual income taxes", for most people, are just taxes from wages which haven't changed much for long time.

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I am talking about your causation assertion.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Jul 13, 2019
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Revenues (from any source) did not increase because of the tax cut. Revenues increased in spite of the tax cut. I explained that the cause of revenue increase was GDP growth that happens every year. There is GDP growth in years without tax cuts. Tax revenues increase those years. I'll make it simple. Tax revenue increased every year after the Great Recession, regardless of whether there was a tax cut. Tax cuts do not create revenue increases.

That is a truth that is pretty well-settled.

So please get it out of your mind that the Trump tax cut caused an increase in tax revenue (as compared to what tax revenue would have been without the tax cut).


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The bubble is your friend. Just get out before it pops. Yeah like 2008 real estate. Can’t fix stupid

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:51 pm on Jul 12, 2019
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Cash at 2+ percent until it is time to get back into the market

Author: CC72 (16793 Posts - Joined: Sep 5, 2010)

Posted at 7:16 pm on Jul 11, 2019
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