48 years today. Let's pray for an end to this country's national support of abortion this June.
If you ever want to find this, it is next to the entrance to the Cathedral right next to the Main Adminstraion Building (Golden Dome building) on the north side of the east entrance with "God, Country, Notre Dame" above the door.
from God but they are strangely supportive of the homeless and immigrants. I’m not sure but at one point all of them were in the womb. So kill them there in the womb but once born we must help them.
They are not Catholics because they don’t follow their faith.
Happiness, great home life, future riches, prosperous family life, love and affection at home or something other not so wonderful?
Are you going to support legislation that helps burdened families with their economic situation? Will you be there to support and replace their missing needs financially and emotionally? What is your idea of the pregnancy’s future where is your community commitment?
Their lives have no value to society if they are a financial burden, right?
You have no idea where I stand on most US immigration policies.
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I do not have the right to interfere with any woman’s decision on her body which includes her reproductive choices.
I do not see abortion as a form of birth control and if asked by a woman what would I chose I would decline abortion as a choice.
But the audacity of a man thinking he has the God given right to force his opinion upon a woman is most vile and loathsome - despicable. Arcane to men their decisions doesn’t mean a man is entitled to over rule a woman’s life.
You said: "I do not have the right to interfere with any woman’s decision on her body which includes her reproductive choices."
We agree here. I think where we disagree is after reproduction has already occurred. Once there is another human being, with a different set of DNA involved, reproduction has already occurred.
Also, I would never say that any human individual can choose to kill another human individual--we disagree on that point. You think that is ok, but I do not.
You said: "I do not see abortion as a form of birth control and if asked by a woman what would I chose I would decline abortion as a choice.
Again, we agree here.
You said: "But the audacity of a man thinking he has the God given right to force his opinion upon a woman is most vile and loathsome - despicable. Arcane to men their decisions doesn’t mean a man is entitled to over rule a woman’s life.
Agree. We have some good common ground here. I don't think I can force my opinion on anyone, man or woman.
Of course, I do believe (as do most people) that the government has a legitimate power and responsibility to stop individuals from killing other individuals, which is what abortion is. Most people who support the right to have an abortion change their opinion on when deadly force can be used when it comes to abortion, but I apply the rule consistently: An individual human should not be able to kill another non-aggressing human individual. I am 100% consistent on this.
is what you and most Republicans are about. When you say you agree with my template you couldn't be more wrong.
you don't agree - the moment you have caveats to what you will allow a woman to do, you are in total disagreement
with my post.
So, by enacting or even supporting these laws, you are forcing your opinion and will on a woman's rights.
We couldn't be farther apart on this.
The problem is that you think prohibiting a woman from killing her child is impinging on her rights. It is never anyone's right to kill their child or any other non-aggressing human individual. You are not being consistent here. Why do you think it is ok for a woman to kill her child?
We are close in that we agree it is wrong to take a human life during 99% of a person's life. You think it is ok to take a human life during that 1% of the time it is in the womb, and I don't. I think it is wrong to kill a non-aggressing human 100% of the time. You are the one making special cases here, not me. Why do you think it is ok to kill sometimes, and not others? Why do you think aggression is ok in the case of abortion, but not other times?
better. Care to talk about the successful and important people in history whose mothers decided to bear the burden. No? So a child is better dead. You are not a Catholic.
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the idea that women should be required to carry a pregnancy to term no matter how that pregnancy came about is in the words of a female Pro-Life, South Carolina Republican State Legislator..."Abhorrent".
Therein lies the problem...more on this in another thread...meanwhile, since you clearly have the time...read the article I posted earlier, written by a Pro-Life woman and graduate of ND (Masters as well) and currently serving with the "FaithND" organization at the University...you owe her that much...btw, I've linked it for your convenience.
Link: https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/09/08/texas-sb-8-heartbeat-abortion-women-241365
The Catholic Church has them everywhere. Make choosing life easier.
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I do try to stay consistent. I'm glad you noticed.
in a world that curtails their freedom, that stifles their autonomy through fear, threat of harm, shame, poverty, inequality."...this quote is from the author of the linked article...a Pro-Life woman and graduate of Notre Dame.
The sooner we start framing the debate around the half of newborns who will become child-bearing women themselves, the sooner we'll find solutions.
More to come...I'll be back to this tomorrow...please read the article.
Link: https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/09/08/texas-sb-8-heartbeat-abortion-women-241365
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I mean, the pill and IUDs are far more effective at preventing unwanted pregnancies than the vaccines are at preventing CoVid infection. Obviously, I am not in favor of this, but given your stance on vaccine mandates, I would expect you would be in favor of such a thing if you're consistent.
I couldn't get through the article, it's too ridiculous to be taken seriously. Outside of violent rapists, which liberals like to let out of prison, women have a monopoly on the supply of pussy, which is a significant power over many men.
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He prefers priests and bishops and taking polls on homosexuality and abortion. He's very modern that way.
woman who graduated from Notre Dame …
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Please do it.
up and answer or piss off.
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.. you oppose workplace safety mandates and other GOVT public health requirements during a deadly pandemic.
Don't even try to reconcile the differences.
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I would argue that it is the primary function of a legitimate government to protect people from aggression when they cannot protect themselves from aggression. Do you agree?
And, I think the government shouldn't discriminate on the basis of age, as the "pro-choice" movement does. Do you agree discrimination like that is bad?
You can’t two step your way out of this. Either you believe in an individual’s rights or you don’t.
Mandating mask wearing during a pandemic isn’t government overreach. If you’re so into claiming government interference with a minor demand as mask wearing during a health crisis, you are definitely on the side of pro-choice at all times.
Hypocrite would be the label you need to wear.
I believe in an individual's rights. I am definitely pro-choice, up until the time a choice is for aggression against another. No hypocrisy here at all. You seem to be using a random text generator to make your posts, as you are making no sense. Everyone one of my posts in this thread assumes a right not to be aggressed against. No hypocrisy at all. Feel free to try to point it out with preciseness...this should be interesting. Perhaps you haven't thought through all of the consequences of your position.
Merriam Webster
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel
His hypocrisy was finally revealed with the publication of his private letters.
especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion
our conventional morality often serves as a cover for hypocrisy and selfishness
You hope no one will notice...but everyone sees that you are unable to make a precise point to support yourself, and you just make broad generalizations...provide a definition without applying it to the argument...all smoke to distract from the fact that you have on logical position in this discussion.
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I'm beginning to think that you don't understand the logic that is supposed to support your position. Perhaps you are just repeating something you think should be right, and have never given the logic any thought at all.
I've actually detailed my position pretty well, but you refuse to engage. You are Brick Tamland.
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Lots to unpack there.
What an unhinged and bizarre view of the world.
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It's almost daily now just how stupid some of these posts are.
I am very willing to listen and discuss but geeze....
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