I do feel there is a relationship between the rallys and the crazy tweets and the public massacres. Four more years might really rip us apart... as would a radical Dem government. It’s time for centrist moderates to stand up and shout that “we’re not going to take it anymore.”
This is the only case that has a specific target, politicians, to murder. Even in that case we still think mental disorder somehow played a part in this shooter. There are many and many political junkies with hatred today. How many of them murder people? one of millions, i.e., almost none. People hate, but people also are rational. Those people, murder the innocent without specific target, are mainly because of mental disorder themselves. Minor things just can be a trigger, but not a cause. I think you actually know this better than anyone else here. Please elect a psychologist as our president if you wish.
And both sides are trying to exploit it instead of condemning it.
are all inspired by Timothy McVeigh regardless of who is president. It’s said about 5% of children have psychopathic traits in early years. No presidents can do anything to change it. Can we separate the hatred of political junkies from the hatred of cold unempathetic psychos?
Why would it be unreasonable to ban every kind of gun except handguns and hunting guns?
You got Trump on one side and all his supporters. On the other side you have Trump haters and socialists. The moderates are collapsing. Just try starting a conversation about politics. It gets ugly among friends and family. It’s like invasion of the body snatchers. No one speaks unless they are sure that they are among their own kind. This board is a perfect example. Few are willing to consider the other sides point of view.
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So did Slick and Newtster.
I’m pretty conservative on most things. But this shit is off the rails on all sides. Take the Scalise shooting. Crazy lefties as well as righties. The center is starting to fall apart. Yeah it’s boring and unprincipled to the true believers but without it we are fucked.
The country club republicans are the worse they only care about money and Wall Street. At least slick worked with Newt to enact reasonable welfare reform and balance the budget. As bad as Trump is, and he can be awful, he’s focused on the right issues. Those left behind in the new global economy. Crazy and no immigration plan. China fucking the world over. And not starting useless wars. His problem he communicates like a New Jersey thug.
the failure of the elites in America, I don’t disagree. I think 41 was a very good prez, W and Barry not so much. They weren’t the main problems though. The main problem is the so called solution, Orange.
He genuinely represented the average white guy from the 1950s. Yes, they were far more racist than today. It is absurd to compare individuals from different eras. By this standard there are progressives among us who shall one day be considered monsters,
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He wasn't perfect, but he was an excellent communicator who I believe often had the best of intentions. We've done far worse.
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had triumphed.
Now that was wishful thinking.
Making promises most reasonable Americans know they can’t keep. Medicare for All is the same as Mexico will pay for the wall. But they doubled down. Open borders and healthcare for illegals. Trump will be re-elected. The D’s are too fucking stupid. Even Biden caved.
this nation apart if he thought it would help him. He needs to go and pick yer centerist to replace him.
No one is going to get everything they want. But there are solutions to a lot of this that can work, imperfectly, but that’s the nature of things.
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Trump enjoys fanning the flames daily. It is what he does, and it has become a sport for many.
For those who suggest it is symmetrical, and the left is equally culpable, .... then you are a loose cannon, and as out of touch as yesterday's shooter.
Sure it’s all Trump’s fault. Do you know all those mentioned were at the White House? Are they charlatans like Trump? Are they racists that hate whites and Jews. You are the problem.
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Meaning Orange, not PB.
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It’s not all one sided but Orange is clearly the worst and most cynical manipulator of it.
The shooters are crazy. Lost souls. The shooters are not representatives of the political left or right. The shooters are detached.
Neither the political right or left supports violence. That much we know.
But, to the crazy shooters, the political lines of demarcation are perceived as combat marching orders --- a chance for greatness on the imaginary battlefield.
Trump's daily rhetoric is all about divide, divide, divide. Russia's cyber ops do the same.
Leadership requires something different than what this President delivers.
the left. All R’s are bad and evil. Capitalism is the problem. Police hate black people and minorities because of their skin color. Where do you think the Scalise shooter got his ideas from?
We need a generation of reasonable congresses reforming our broken systems and outdated laws that are working together for the people rather than themselves, their lobbyists and special interests. It seems unlikely in my lifetime.
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need at least baby steps to start somewhere.
In the meantime, this guy just has to STFU with his divisive crappy.
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the country has not been this divided since 1968.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_and_the_Siege_of_Chicago