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Would fat shaming make for a healthier nation?

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 2:44 am on Sep 7, 2019
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I agree with Bill Maher on this. Though a better health care system like Single Payer would be a great thing for this nation
people need to have healthier diets - Dr's need to work on preventative measures instead of treating symptoms.

But in the end, fat people usually have greater and more dire health issues - issues across the board - and require more medicine to treat their symptoms when eating some greens
instead of triple Jack-cheese burger with double ranch, bacon and sweet Carolina BBQ sauce with a double side of creamy butter mashed potatoes on the side along with
a gallon cup of Dr. Pepper. And that's just the appetizer.

A lot more self control at breakfast, lunch and dinner table.




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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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Thread Level: 2

Perhaps not shaming, but diet and exercise would go a long way towards lowering health care cost

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:25 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I see it in my own family. Brothers/Sisters/Cousins that eat healthy and exercise have vastly different health profiles.

Our “health care” system has become one of treating symptoms rather than underlying causes.


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May not. But sweet shaming will do since sugar is a poison. I grew up in a culture that eating sweet

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:44 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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was viewed as a women thing or a childish thing. If a guy likes sweets, not just men mock him, women will also view him very girly. The first culture shock I had in America is on my first day in the school when I met my graduate coordinator, a real gentleman and nice person. His office was open and he was eating snicker when I followed the sectary of dept office entering his office. It amused me at that moment to see a 6'2"guy eating candy. It was unthinkable to me at that time.

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And a culture where the men drink and smoke like fish and chimneys, respectively

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:30 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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As my girlfriends playfully say, "nothing tastes as good as skinny feels ..."

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:04 am on Sep 7, 2019
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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If that’s your girlfriend I have a new found respect. Question, why do you ever spend time posting?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:14 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I was just going to tell him the same thing. That girl is awesome. Respect from here too.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Sep 8, 2019
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I'm 58. 3 minutes per day w/ GF's. 23 hours, 57 minutes posting ... with an IV.

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:02 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Wise man, keeping your saline and fluid balanced is important while posting

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Pretty clear they already feel no shame...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33490 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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It's dicey.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 am on Sep 7, 2019
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The obsession with thinness is not healthy either, and has led to the rise of eating disorders. Perhaps these problems correspond to our barbell shaped socioeconomic society. There is not a single client or attorney I deal with that is obese, or even close. ND alumni and parent events rarely have obese people (sometimes an old lineman?). ED disorders tend to arise in the ranks of overachieving people from that general group.

The less-educated classes seem (of multiple races) seem to have more of the overweight problem.

Let's also assume that I'm not the only one that has noticed that. Your suggestion of shaming people might well do two things - increase the incidences of ED among the educated class (who don't have an obesity problem), and increase resentment in the less-educated classes that the "others" are trying tell them they are losers. I see it just creating more of the "divide" we already have.


Are you kind?
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In your apparent attempt to provide balance you realize you have equated uneducated to obesity. Nice

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:47 am on Sep 7, 2019
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I know a lot of highly educated people who are as big as a house.

Thread Level: 4

It's not equal. It's likelihoods.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:57 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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It's not that controversial a connection

Link: https://www.stateofobesity.org/socioeconomics-obesity/

Are you kind?
Thread Level: 4

Lehigh has a giant replica of the scales of justice in his reception area and he apparently makes...

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33490 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:41 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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...clients and new hires sit in it before accepting them...

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They are oblivious to their identity politics. What ethnic group has the highest obesity?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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African American women who are the most loyal Democrat voters. So using identity politics they are:

African American
Women
Uneducated
Unmarried 67% children born out of wedlock
And, they have the highest obesity rates

Wonder if any of this group are prevalent at ND alumni events or are clients of Lehigh? The one thing we do know they didn’t vote for Trump.


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Is that really identity politics?

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:01 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I guess I don't know what identity politics is.

I suggested that fat shaming might be bad because it might appear that the educated elites are telling others how to live.

Are you suggested that any analysis of an issue based on effects of people of different education levels is "identity politics"?


Are you kind?
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No you made a statement without data that said the educated are less likely to suffer obesity

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:40 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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That ND alumni are thin, as are your clients. Are you a fatist? Or do you have a reputation for having educated and thin clients. What are you suggesting in making those comments?

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I posted data. I didn't originally because I didn't think those trends were that controversial.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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I was looking at the highly-educated/less-educated divide, specifically. I perceive a resentment the less-educated folks towards the elitism of the highly-educated folks. I thought that was part of the anti-globalism, anti-climate change schtick. I thought it a bad idea for the highly-educated elites to shame fat folks, who are disproportionately less-educated.

I don't know why that makes you start defending Trump voters.


Are you kind?
Thread Level: 9

Problem is you made the connection to obesity. Right? Fat people are stupid.

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Thread Level: 10

What problem is that? And I never said that fat people are stupid.

Author: LehighND (7534 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:02 am on Sep 8, 2019
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You are getting dangerously close to making shit up about me. Don't be Cole.

Are you kind?
Thread Level: 11

What does uneducated people are more likely to be obese mean? Fat people are stupid. Right?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:55 am on Sep 8, 2019
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Lehigh I’m just making a point. You made a comment. I immediately attacked you based on identity

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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politics. It sucks. And that is what has being going on for two years with Trump voters. We are the uneducated, obese, lazy, unemployed, gun owning, bible thumping, white nationalist racists. No we are not. Again I say for the thousandth time, some support Trump’s policies not his tweets or the man. May be hard for you to believe but compared to W he’s a breath of fresh air.

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Scaly Lehigh.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:57 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Unbalanced Lehigh.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33490 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:43 pm on Sep 7, 2019
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Thread Level: 2

Liked the part about science. Diet soda causes cancer and heart disease. Where are the boycotts?

Author: PBHangingChad (15790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:43 am on Sep 7, 2019
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His commentary demonstrates our selective agendas. Obesity and drinking diet sodas are killing millions of Americans but let’s focus on gun deaths. Why not be consistent? But that would cross to many barriers with the huge food and beverage industries. It’s slow death not like a mass shooting or airplane crashes so it is ignored.

Thread Level: 2

Lots of fat people are insufficiently shamed?

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:39 am on Sep 7, 2019
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I don’t think under-mocking is a cause of the obesity epidemic. And I don’t think more mockery can solve it.

Like her or hate her, the positive message promoted by Michelle Obama had the same goal, and had a much better chance to help.

If it emphasized portion control over kale, it would have been better. But still.


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Thread Level: 2

Yes...and a much funnier one as we could bring back fat jokes to sitcoms and cartoons.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33490 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:50 am on Sep 7, 2019
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Like Fat Monica on Friends.

Na, na, na, gonna have a good time!


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