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Interesting that Schumer feels like more witnesses are needed, but the House won't call them.

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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If the leader of the Democrat side of the jury in the Senate feels like the House hasn't proven its case, you would think the House would pause, and call the additional witnesses that Schumer says are needed. But, it looks like the House is going to move forward with what Schumer thinks is insufficient evidence. That is an interesting development.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

Replies to: Interesting that Schumer feels like more witnesses are needed, but the House won't call them.


Thread Level: 2

This clown Schumer must be brain dead; FOX has been playing all day excerpts from 1999

Author: cubsfanin16 (5498 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 10:49 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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when Schumer insisted no new witnesses were needed for Clinton's impeachment...Selective memory at best And really Chuck, if you need more witnesses, is there any reason you don't need Joe and Hunter Biden? Arent you at least somewhat curious, that after VP Joe Biden was made point man to the Ukraine by Obama, as to why and how HUnter was appointed to a corrupt board of a corrupt firm in a corrupt country at 50K per month Seriously Chuck..

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Schumer, Nadler, Bloomberg,Feinstein dual citizenship in Israel.. traitors

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 11:32 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Interesting that you didn’t hear that the House called every witness Schumer requested

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:52 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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The White House refused to let any of them testify.

You know, because that’s what innocent people do. They block the witnesses who would clear them (and then complain about the reliability of other witnesses).

Totally normal.


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WH Denied legal representation, GOP denied witnesses and Q's. Secret hearings. Don't insult us

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:35 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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At least wait a few months before rewriting the history.

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Seriously, you need new news sources.

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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The WH declined to participate.

There were no “secret hearings” - GOP reps were always present.

No GOP member was denied the chance to ask questions.

You just make shit up.


Thread Level: 5

You know, if you don't know something, it doesn't mean that the other guy is wrong.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:11 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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I'm aware that the WH declined to lend credibility to the Circus of Schiff. But a big reason was that Schiff denied them legal representation at the hearings (thus the first portion of my head post).

Hearings were kept secret from the public so that the message could be politically sculpted against the president by Schiff and the Dems.

The third part - well here you go. You can apologize whenever your up to it for saying that I made this up. I suppose that in your world of rationalization, you will try to make a distinction about the GOP being allowed to ask the questions even though Schiff wouldn't let the witness answer them.
But no Chris, I am right. If Shiff blocks witnesses from answering questions, it is the same thing as the question not being allowed to be asked. Without the possibility of an answer, there can be no question.


Link: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/adam-schiff-jim-jordan-house-inquiry/2019/10/29/id/939274/

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He didn’t stop anyone from asking witnesses...wait, what am I doing?

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:36 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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There are fewer pure time-wasters than explaining stuff to Trump people.

Thread Level: 7

He prevented witnesses from answering critical GOP questions. This is irrefutable.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:36 am on Dec 18, 2019
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I ask myself why I bother as well. But the reason that I do is that I see your thinking morph over months despite initial denial. I don’t ever give up on helping you.

Thread Level: 5

Its fair to ask whether you think there is enough testimony to convict right now. Schumer says no.

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:09 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Edit: Just saw below that you disagree with Schumer. Fair enough.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Would they have appeared if they were allowed to bring counsel?

Author: Iggle (12612 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:17 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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The world wonders*

*3 UHND points for whomever gets that reference without googling.


Thread Level: 3

Sounds like Ned would welcome material witness warrants in this process.

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:01 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Sadly, no such hammer exists.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

You got the impression I thought more witnesses were needed? That is very interesting.

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

OK, Mr. Walk Back.

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 6

Maybe when I said "Schumer" you read "Ned?"

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:15 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Wrong. The House was not going to reward obstruction and proceed at a slothful pace.

Author: conorlarkin (20997 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Doing so would have played into Trump’s hand, knowing that the passage of time dilutes public interest and allows false narratives, repeated over and over by Trump and State TV, to become acceptable “truth.”

Good lawyers don’t overtry their case. Get the case to the jury sooner than later.

Schumer is wisely forcing McConnell to pass on key witnesses — Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo, etc.

Keep pretending they have nothing to hide.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 3

I don’t know why we need any more witnessing

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:30 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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The entire Ukraine team at the very least was under the impression that a quid pro quo existed, and that Trump was using his public position for personal gain.

The right asks us to believe that they were all wrong. Or, alternatively, that that are all lying now. Every single one of them.

It is such abject nonsense.

As I have said many times, one can think that this does not rise to the level of impeachable offense. On that reasonable people can disagree.

But it is not reasonable to doubt he is guilty. It’s just not. I bet every right-winger on this board - maybe deep down, maybe not-so-deep - know he’s guilty.

We don’t need more witnesses.


Thread Level: 4

Sondland's testimony changed, and Ukrainian assistant refutes it. Taylor presumed it from Sondland.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:19 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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and the third was dismissed and is pissed about it. In fact, Sondland gave testimony proving trump's innocence that you continue to ignore.
3 libs presume something about Trump, and you think it's fact. Absurd.

But I agree that we don't need more witnesses because it's clear that facts don't matter to you.

Well, it is a political process, and as Mitch McConnell points out, it will be a mirror version now:
" “I’m not an impartial juror. This is a political process. There’s not anything judicial about it. Impeachment is a political decision. The House made a partisan political decision to impeach. I would anticipate we will have a largely partisan outcome in the Senate. I’m not impartial about this at all.”


Thread Level: 5

If you are unsatisfied, then let the other witnesses speak

Author: Chris94 (36746 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:11 am on Dec 18, 2019
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He said Schumer and wisely in the same sentence. That is funny.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:28 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 3

Trump laid out everything in his letter. Have you read it? :-)

Author: NedoftheHill (44624 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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No way he made it through all five pages. No way. Anathema to him.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59837 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:20 pm on Dec 17, 2019
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