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What are thoughts on getting kids boosted? Science seems to suggest against it.

Author: LanceManion (7972 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 10:06 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.

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Here you go...be sure to let Baron know so that he doesn't wander off thinking he's done with

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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his research.

Be sure to click on the links within the Johns Hopkins article...these are rigorous studies from the CDC, and contrary to whatever Baron thinks, the CDC is...and has always been...a devoted and scholarly institution dedicated to keeping all of us healthy...that didn't end two years ago when Trump showed up.

Parenthetically, the Infectious Disease Specialist in our family (yeah, that one) has personally worked with CDC experts on a very unique and challenging case...you'd be amazed at the level of detail they work in...every single day....trust them.


Link: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/even-more-safety-and-effectiveness-data-for-covid-19-vaccines-for-children

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A toxic protein is contained within these vaccines... You have to wake up.

Author: eftg1 (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 19, 2012)

Posted at 11:11 am on Feb 7, 2022
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I think it's very important...until they're tall enough to sit in restaurants without.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33501 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:51 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Your soft! In my day, we grew harder. (Not a bad Cialis commercial in this btw).

Author: BaronVonZemo (60130 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:59 am on Feb 7, 2022
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"Science seems to suggest against it."

Author: Chris94 (36788 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:33 am on Feb 7, 2022
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If you get your science info from right-wing moron sites, then that probably seems true.

Link: https://ldh.la.gov/news/cdcguidance-010622

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The CDC for a number of other countries recommend against it due to risks to kids

Author: LanceManion (7972 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 2:26 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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I’m not the expert on this stuff, but it sounds like the US CDC’s view isn’t consistent globally

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Everyone understand what the govt rec is, but some are questioning that these days. I searched ..

Author: BaronVonZemo (60130 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:49 am on Feb 7, 2022
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...through your link, as well as the links within the link, but i was not able to find the specific studies used to make these govt recommendations. The closest I got was the official ongoing research website, but i did not see a study on the booster that had results available.

Ever since the Biden admin went against the advise of its' FDA and CDC Advisory Panels last Fall (and later reconstituted them which to some brings up the spectre that they potentially changed "experts" to get the result that they wanted), I think it is very important to evaluate the actual data. Plenty of blindly trusting people might take your link as an actual answer, but in fact, it simply says what the CDC recommends and appears to require simply trusting the government experts. Since the people needing to be convinced do NOT trust the govt and Fauci, etc., it would be far more helpful to post the actual studies.

Perhaps I missed the actual study hidden in your link in which case, please provide it, if yu would. If you also cannot provide the specific studies, then you should realize that your post provides no actual evidence, and adds nothing new since everyone knows how the present CDC stands on this issue.

Again, this is about presenting facts to skeptics, not providing smug hugs to believers.


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Good Grief!...you have to be the laziest "researcher" on earth...check out the link...someone re-

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:24 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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post the link for him since he insists that he's paying no attention to someone who just might challenge his mis-leading posts...it's a never-ending job, but someone has to do it.

Link: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/even-more-safety-and-effectiveness-data-for-covid-19-vaccines-for-children

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It's funny, because I have the same experience. Searching for real facts and information, but never

Author: Protagonist (1107 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 12:59 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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finding any. It really is amazing.

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It is simple to search just any study, but what we need is the studies on which CDC bases it's rec's

Author: BaronVonZemo (60130 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:18 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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Clearly, Dr. VonZemo has no idea how our CDC works...here are the authors who participated in the

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:22 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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study I posted...does he think that a CDC study is just a few bureaucrats getting together in a room?...these are people who are members of one of the agency's 25 "Prevention Research Center" teams, and they do REAL research for the CDC...in this case, it's for evaluating the efficacy of vaccines for kids.

When you're done scanning this impressive list of authors...go read the CDC Study I posted and learn why vaccinating kids is the right thing to do.

------------------------------------Overcoming COVID-19 Investigators
Meghan Murdock, Children’s of Alabama, Birmingham, Alabama; Mary Glas Gaspers, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona; Katri V. Typpo, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona; Connor P. Kelley, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona; Ronald C. Sanders, Arkansas Children’s Hospital, Little Rock, Arkansas; Masson Yates, Arkansas Children’s Hospital, Little Rock, Arkansas; Chelsea Smith, Arkansas Children’s Hospital, Little Rock, Arkansas; Katheryn Crane, Rady Children’s Hospital, San Diego, California; Geraldina Lionetti, University of California, San Francisco Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland, Oakland, California; Juliana Murcia-Montoya, University of California, San Francisco Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland, Oakland, California; Matt S. Zinter, University of California San Francisco Benioff Children’s Hospital, San Francisco, California; Denise Villarreal-Chico, University of California San Francisco Benioff Children’s Hospital, San Francisco, California; Adam L. Skura, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California; Harvey Peralta, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California; Justin M. Lockwood, Children’s Hospital Colorado, Aurora, Colorado; Emily Port, Children’s Hospital Colorado, Aurora, Colorado; Imogene A. Carson, Children’s Hospital Colorado, Aurora, Colorado; Brandon M. Chatani, Holtz Children’s Hospital, Miami, Florida; Laila Hussaini, Emory University School of Medicine Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia; Nadine Baida, Emory University School of Medicine Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia; Bria M. Coates, Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois; Courtney M. Rowan, Riley Hospital for Children, Indianapolis, Indiana; Mary Stumpf, Riley Hospital for Children, Indianapolis, Indiana; Marla S. Johnston, Children’s Hospital of New Orleans, New Orleans, Louisiana; Benjamin J. Boutselis, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Suden Kucukak, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Sabrina R. Chen, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Edie Weller, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Laura Berbert, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Jie He, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; Heidi R. Flori, University of Michigan CS Mott Children’s Hospital, Ann Arbor, Michigan; Janet R. Hume, University of Minnesota Masonic Children’s Hospital, Minneapolis, Minnesota; Ellen R. Bruno, University of Minnesota Masonic Children’s Hospital, Minneapolis, Minnesota; Lexie A. Goertzen, University of Minnesota Masonic Children’s Hospital, Minneapolis, Minnesota; Emily R. Levy, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota; Supriya Behl, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota; Noelle M. Drapeau, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota; Lora Martin, Children’s Hospital of Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi; Lacy Malloch, Children’s Hospital of Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi; Cameron Sanders, Children’s Hospital of Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi; Kayla Patterson, Children’s Hospital of Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi; Anita Dhanrajani, Children’s Hospital of Mississippi, Jackson, Mississippi; Shannon M. Hill, Children’s Mercy Hospital, Kansas City, Missouri; Abigail Kietzman, Children’s Mercy Hospital, Kansas City, Missouri; Valerie H. Rinehart, Children’s Hospital & Medical Center, Omaha, Nebraska; Lauren A. Hoody, Children’s Hospital & Medical Center, Omaha, Nebraska; Stephanie P. Schwartz, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Angelo G. Navas, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Paris C. Bennett, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Nicole A. Twinem, Akron Children’s Hospital, Akron, Ohio; Merry L. Tomcany, Akron Children’s Hospital, Akron, Ohio; Mary Allen Staat, Cincinnati Children’s Hospital, Cincinnati, Ohio; Chelsea C. Rohlfs, Cincinnati Children’s Hospital, Cincinnati, Ohio; Amber Wolfe, Nationwide Children’s Hospital, Columbus, Ohio; Rebecca L. Douglas, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Kathlyn Phengchomphet, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Megan M. Bickford, Medical University of South Carolina Children’s Health, Charleston, South Carolina; Lauren E. Wakefield, Medical University of South Carolina Children’s Health, Charleston, South Carolina; Laura Smallcomb, Medical University of South Carolina Children’s Health, Charleston, South Carolina; Laura S. Stewart, Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, Tennessee; Meena Golchha, Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt, Nashville, Tennessee; Jennifer N. Oates, Texas Children’s Hospital, Houston, Texas; Cindy Bowens, University of Texas Southwestern, Children’s Medical Center Dallas, Dallas, Texas

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Corresponding author: Laura D. Zambrano, lzambrano@cdc.gov.

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1CDC COVID-19 Response Team; 2Department of Anesthesiology, Critical Care, and Pain Medicine, Boston Children’s Hospital, Boston, Massachusetts; 3Division of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, Department of Pediatrics, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville, Tennessee; 4Department of Pediatrics, Baylor College of Medicine, Immunization Project, Texas Children’s Hospital, Houston, Texas; 5The Center for Childhood Infections and Vaccines of Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta and the Department of Pediatrics, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia; 6Division of Critical Care Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, Emory University School of Medicine, Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia; 7Department of Pediatrics, Section of Critical Care Medicine, University of Colorado School of Medicine and Children’s Hospital Colorado, Aurora, Colorado; 8Department of Pediatrics, Children’s Hospital of Michigan, Central Michigan University, Detroit, Michigan; 9The Ryan White Center for Pediatric Infectious Disease and Global Health, Department of Pediatrics, Indiana University School of Medicine, Indianapolis, Indiana; 10Division of Pediatric Critical Care Medicine, Nationwide Children’s Hospital Columbus, Ohio; 11Division of Critical Care Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, Akron Children’s Hospital, Akron, Ohio; 12Department of Pediatrics, Department of Microbiology, Division of Infectious Diseases, University of Mississippi Medical Center, Jackson, Mississippi; 13Department of Pediatrics, Division of Cardiology, Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center and Children’s Hospital of New Orleans, New Orleans, Louisiana; 14Division of Critical Care Medicine, UCSF Benioff Children’s Hospital Oakland, Oakland, California; 15Section of Pediatric Critical Care, Department of Pediatrics, Arkansas Children’s Hospital, Little Rock, Arkansas; 16Division of Pediatric Critical Care Medicine, Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston, South Carolina; 17Division of Pediatric Critical Care, Department of Pediatrics, Children’s Hospital and Medical Center, Omaha, Nebraska; 18Division of Infectious Diseases, Children’s Hospital Los Angeles and Departments of Pediatrics and Molecular Microbiology and Immunology, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California; 19Division of Pediatric Critical Care Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, University of Alabama at Birmingham, Birmingham, Alabama; 20Department of Pediatrics, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Children’s Hospital, Chapel Hill, North Carolina; 21Division of Pediatric Critical Care, Department of Pediatrics, Saint Barnabas Medical Center, Livingston, New Jersey; 22Division of Critical Care Medicine, Department of Pediatrics, Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois; 23Division of Pediatric Hospital Medicine, UC San Diego-Rady Children’s Hospital, San Diego, California; 24Division of Critical Care Medicine, Department of Anesthesiology and Critical Care, Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; 25Department of Pediatrics, Division of Critical Care Medicine, University of Texas Southwestern, Children’s Medical Center Dallas, Dallas, Texas; 26Division of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, Department of Pediatrics, Children’s Mercy Kansas City, Kansas City, Missouri; 27Departments of Anesthesia and Pediatrics, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts.

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All authors have completed and submitted the International Committee of Medical Journal Editors form for disclosure of potential conflicts of interest. Jennifer E. Schuster reports institutional support from Merck for an RSV research study, unrelated to the current work. Adrienne G. Randolph reports institutional support from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health (NIH), royalties from UpToDate as the Pediatric Critical Care Section Editor, and participation on a data safety monitoring board (DSMB) for a National Institute of Child Health and Human Development-funded study. Pia S. Pannaraj reports institutional support from AstraZeneca and Pfizer, consulting fees from Sanofi-Pasteur and Seqirus, payment from law firms for expert testimony, participation on a Division of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases DSMB, and an unpaid leadership role in the California Immunization Coalition. Ryan A. Nofziger reports institutional support from NIH for participation in a multicenter influenza study. Satoshi Kamidani reports institutional support from NIH and Pfizer. Charlotte V. Hobbs reports consulting fees from Dynamed and honoraria from Biofire/Biomerieux. Natasha B. Halasa reports grants from Sanofi and Quidel and an educational grant from Genentech. Natalie Z. Cvijanovich reports a speaker’s registration discount at the Society of Critical Care Medicine meeting. Samina S. Bhumbra reports receipt of an NIH, NIAID training grant during September 1, 2019–August 31, 2020. No other potential conflicts of interest were disclosed.


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Right, trust the CDC because they have been dead on the money all along.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:46 am on Feb 7, 2022
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But yeah, trust the science. I'm sure you also worship at the Altar of Fauci.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/16/magazine/cdc-covid-response.html

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Very good article...as an agency of HHS, and partner of the FDA, the CDC's issues are not all under

Author: TyroneIrish (20659 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:05 pm on Feb 7, 2022
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its control...nonetheless, after reading the NYT article, and living through these two years...I thank heaven that Donald Trump and his enablers are no longer controlling HHS/CDC/FDA...or we'd be a lot worse off than we are now...with no hope of getting better...my opinion...but I'm sticking to it.

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Your Q presumes that the parent has already chosen to get them vaccinated. Are you aware of that?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60130 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:32 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Depends on where you live. If a Lefty state that forbids the kids from participating in just about

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:27 am on Feb 7, 2022
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anything, then I say get them vacc'd. Otherwise, there's no good reason for it.

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It makes as much sense and the stupid ass mandate that Biden tried to put in place.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:26 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Leave the kids alone and let that choice fall to the parents. They don't even need to be vaccinated, let alone boosted.

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I'll wait for Markharman's scientists response before I give my thoughts.

Author: jimbasil (52703 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:25 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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We are waiting with bated breath

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Feb 7, 2022
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Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:56 am on Feb 7, 2022
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